Is there no way to produce Fertiliser other than...

[Mr. Goblin]

Is there no way to produce Fertiliser other than the Fertiliser Synthesis machine?
Which uses dirt and phosphorus. Where both do end up depleting over time on the map; especially the phosphorous. Once phosphorous is depleted. Fertiliser seems impossible to make. Thus, all my farms are rendered useless. And, my Pawns can no longer eat better foods at all! Just much foods for the remainder of the world map game.

Is there no other way to produce Fertiliser? Other than dig it up; of course.

I am surprised that when a Pawn or creature 'poops' in this game. We can't take that and process it into fertiliser. Like we can in REAL LIFE sciences.

Is there any way in this game to 'produce' Dirt and Phosphorous? Besides digging it up.

[Evilsod]

Why is that surprising? We have creatures that excrete coal. Normal biological processes don't really apply here :P

If you view the codex entry in game, that should tell you every way to acquire it. Dirt is generally produced by various critters or as byproducts from things. Phosphorous is far more difficult. The only thing that comes to mind is Bammoth Patty.

[arti_llery]

Dreckos produce what you need for fertilizer. Bammoths do too.

[TooMuchCoffee]

You don't even need fertilizer to grow crops, it just makes the process more efficient.

Also, REAL LIFE science doesn't say you can just drop raw sewage on a farm plot and expect stuff to grow. That's why you need a water sieve and compost.

[Ender's games]

And farms are far from useless without fertiliser.

[Lemina]

Dreckos provide phosperite, and they subsist off a plant that requires nothing but a chlorine atmosphere (balm lily). Once you have a drecko ranch you're basically getting free phospherite, meat and reed fiber from nothing other than some dupe labour for grooming.

For sustainable dirt, one pip produce 20kg a cycle while a flox produces 5kg a cycle, although floxes are easier to ranch and provide wood when sheared (which can be used at the ethanol distillery to produce both ethanol and polluted dirt that can be composted to dirt)

[Mr. Goblin]

Originally posted by TooMuchCoffee:

You don't even need fertilizer to grow crops, it just makes the process more efficient.

Also, REAL LIFE science doesn't say you can just drop raw sewage on a farm plot and expect stuff to grow. That's why you need a water sieve and compost.

That is what I meant. A process. I just didnt want to go through all the information typing regarding that whole process. But, even in this game; it is not possible. You can't use the Seive or Composter to create fertiliser either! So that argument is moot, for game. It does not agree with actual real life science still.

Also; you do need fertiliser for the farms, or they all growth stops. At least it does for the HydroFarms, that I am using.

Another reply person also said that without fertiliser, the farms barely grow and are virtually useless.

[Mr. Goblin]

Originally posted by Lemina:

Dreckos provide phosperite, and they subsist off a plant that requires nothing but a chlorine atmosphere (balm lily). Once you have a drecko ranch you're basically getting free phospherite, meat and reed fiber from nothing other than some dupe labour for grooming.

For sustainable dirt, one pip produce 20kg a cycle while a flox produces 5kg a cycle, although floxes are easier to ranch and provide wood when sheared (which can be used at the ethanol distillery to produce both ethanol and polluted dirt that can be composted to dirt)

Well, that is helpful in some way regarding dirt and phosphorous. Thanks. I will keep those tips in mind.

[Los]

i think you are confusing fertiliser item and what plants use as fertiliser which is different
Each plant uses different things as fertiliser and the fertiliser item is only used to make micro-nutrients in a farming station to boost plant growth

[Mr. Goblin]

Originally posted by Los:

i think you are confusing fertiliser item and what plants use as fertiliser which is different
Each plant uses different things as fertiliser and the fertiliser item is only used to make micro-nutrients in a farming station to boost plant growth

Well, I am trying to grown mushrooms and Miel and some other flowery looking plants. Miel seems to grow without fertiliser, actually. But, the other two plants seem to need fertiliser as a requisite to grow at all.

Micro-nutrient booster or not.

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Mr. Goblin:

Well, I am trying to grown mushrooms and Miel and some other flowery looking plants. Miel seems to grow without fertiliser, actually. But, the other two plants seem to need fertiliser as a requisite to grow at all.

Micro-nutrient booster or not.

Um, if you think that's the case, then you're missing something, because that's not how it works. Every farmed plant consumes something or it won't grow. Some plants then consume something extra on top (usually the gas they're in).
Think the only exception to that is the Balm Lily.

Fertiliser, the material, is just a boost to it its growth rate at a Farm Station.

[Shame]

Originally posted by Mr. Goblin:

Is there no way to produce Fertiliser other than the Fertiliser Synthesis machine?
Which uses dirt and phosphorus. Where both do end up depleting over time on the map; especially the phosphorous. Once phosphorous is depleted. Fertiliser seems impossible to make. Thus, all my farms are rendered useless. And, my Pawns can no longer eat better foods at all! Just much foods for the remainder of the world map game.

Is there no other way to produce Fertiliser? Other than dig it up; of course.

I am surprised that when a Pawn or creature 'poops' in this game. We can't take that and process it into fertiliser. Like we can in REAL LIFE sciences.

Is there any way in this game to 'produce' Dirt and Phosphorous? Besides digging it up.

Don't you mean phosphorite? You cannot confuse the two as they are both in the game and are very much different materials. Phosphorite can be obtained from dreckos, they excrete it, I would advise feeding them balm lilies as the lilies take zero material to grow, literally nothing, so effectively you can get phosphorite, meat/eggs, egg shells for lime and reed fibre from shearing the critters. This method is incredibly overpowered, you just need to set up drecko ranches properly.

That stuff is also what you want for your fertiliser synthesizer. Polluted dirt that you get from outhouses can be turned back into dirt via the compost, though this method is bound to cause a germ outbreak if you're not careful and you will likely have to not switch to plumbed washrooms to sustain it. Pips also excrete dirt, I advise letting them feed on growing thimble reeds to effectively turn polluted water into dirt.

Phosphorus, which you get from melting phosphorite to liquid phosphorus and condensing it back to solid has one specific use, I think it's only in the Spaced Out DLC, but basically if you want to geotune metal volcanoes, you will need that.

Both the fertiliser for plants and phosphorus for geotuning are optional. I have yet to use either myself and I have played the game for hundreds of hours.

[POWER WITHIN USER]

Growth halted:
Fertilization = it's missing solid materials that the plant needs (dirt, slime, sulfur)
Irrigation = missing liquid materials (H2O, pH2O, ethanol, chlorine)

Then there's fertilizer, the thing which requires pH2O, dirt and phosphorite to make; and micronutrient fertilizer (requires fertilizer) which doubles the speed at which a plant grows.
It doesn't cost that much water to make as the natural gas can be recycled, and you don't need a lot of fertilizer as a machine makes 72kg per cycle and you need 5kg of it to improve a plant.
Dirt can be easily mass produced, you just need to think about how to do it (ethanol, rotten food, sieving pH2O).

Given that it's another production chain to build, you would want to use it on the fancier crops such as sleet wheat, and it's even better if you're using the SO DLC and the radiation feature.

[Mr. Goblin]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by Mr. Goblin:

Well, I am trying to grown mushrooms and Miel and some other flowery looking plants. Miel seems to grow without fertiliser, actually. But, the other two plants seem to need fertiliser as a requisite to grow at all.

Micro-nutrient booster or not.

Um, if you think that's the case, then you're missing something, because that's not how it works. Every farmed plant consumes something or it won't grow. Some plants then consume something extra on top (usually the gas they're in).
Think the only exception to that is the Balm Lily.

Fertiliser, the material, is just a boost to it its growth rate at a Farm Station.

Then why do some of my plant types state in RED that I 'need fertiliser'? "Growth Halted, needs fertiliser"

[Mr. Goblin]

Originally posted by Shame:

Originally posted by Mr. Goblin:

Is there no way to produce Fertiliser other than the Fertiliser Synthesis machine?
Which uses dirt and phosphorus. Where both do end up depleting over time on the map; especially the phosphorous. Once phosphorous is depleted. Fertiliser seems impossible to make. Thus, all my farms are rendered useless. And, my Pawns can no longer eat better foods at all! Just much foods for the remainder of the world map game.

Is there no other way to produce Fertiliser? Other than dig it up; of course.

I am surprised that when a Pawn or creature 'poops' in this game. We can't take that and process it into fertiliser. Like we can in REAL LIFE sciences.

Is there any way in this game to 'produce' Dirt and Phosphorous? Besides digging it up.

Don't you mean phosphorite? You cannot confuse the two as they are both in the game and are very much different materials. Phosphorite can be obtained from dreckos, they excrete it, I would advise feeding them balm lilies as the lilies take zero material to grow, literally nothing, so effectively you can get phosphorite, meat/eggs, egg shells for lime and reed fibre from shearing the critters. This method is incredibly overpowered, you just need to set up drecko ranches properly.

That stuff is also what you want for your fertiliser synthesizer. Polluted dirt that you get from outhouses can be turned back into dirt via the compost, though this method is bound to cause a germ outbreak if you're not careful and you will likely have to not switch to plumbed washrooms to sustain it. Pips also excrete dirt, I advise letting them feed on growing thimble reeds to effectively turn polluted water into dirt.

Phosphorus, which you get from melting phosphorite to liquid phosphorus and condensing it back to solid has one specific use, I think it's only in the Spaced Out DLC, but basically if you want to geotune metal volcanoes, you will need that.

Both the fertiliser for plants and phosphorus for geotuning are optional. I have yet to use either myself and I have played the game for hundreds of hours.

Which ever the one is for creating Fertiliser. It might be 'Phosphorite' then.

So, you don't use fertiliser, ever, really? For farms.

Why is it in my game, it is telling me that it growth is halted. And in RED the reasoning are "needs fertiliser"?

[Los]

you need to look for what that particular plant uses as fertiliser like mushrooms uses slime as fertiliser check this for reference https://oxygennotincluded.fandom.com/wiki/Fertilizer?so=search