Full Rodriguez (SPOM) questions

[E Man]

Q1: I built a full Rodriguez per Francis John's video, but I am getting O2 mixed in with the Hydrogen in the top pump, which damages the generators. Atmo sensors are correct (250g at top and 450g on bottom). This is an overbuild in my base - the oxygen outputs are often blocked due to pressure at 2000. Does this cause the issue? Would a gas filter fix it or is that going to cause other problems?

Q2: If I don't vent off the excess hydrogen, will this break the setup?

[Cotaks]

Origineel geplaatst door Angpaur:

Origineel geplaatst door Cotaks:

this is a spom: https://www.mupload.nl/img/yg4w7z.png

The screenshots and videos i see inhere aren't spoms, but just a room with electrlyzer and pumps lol.

Why don't we take it a bit further. What you showed is not SPOM either, because the only valid SPOM is this build: https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87548-self-powering-oxygen-module-mkii-production-and-cooling/
It was called SPOM by its designer and all other builds are just rooms/modules with electrolyzer and pumps.

And on a side note: that 2 pump, vertical build is deleting 5% of hydrogen. Not much, but better to have a build that doesn't delete gases.

1. look at what you are saying, it ain't a spom but it is? "all other builds are just rooms/modules""
2. it's not deleting anything, you simply can't run the electolizer at 100% water intake you need to run it at 75% then you have a 100% uptime without gasses getting deleted.

2a. and what does it matter that 5% gets lost, even 10 or 20% wont hurt, as long as the generator keeps the batteries full then there is no issue. But if you also gather the hydrogen to get used for something else and running 100% water to it, then indeed it will lose some and can actually be a pain.

[Angpaur]

It IS deleting 5%, meaning if you electrolyze for example 1000kg of water and you store all produced hydrogen you will get 106-107kg instead of 112kg. It has nothing to do with the uptime.

[Cotaks]

Origineel geplaatst door Angpaur:

It IS deleting 5%, meaning if you electrolyze for example 1000kg of water and you store all produced hydrogen you will get 106-107kg instead of 112kg. It has nothing to do with the uptime.

Never tried it that way, so it's possible. But still if you are making a spom/spor or whatever haha, then it doesn't matter at all, it keeps the generator running, batteries stays full.

I always run this setup for like a million cycles+, never had issues.

[Angpaur]

To me electrolyzers main purpose is hydrogen production, as it is the only way to get hydrogen other than vents. I can produce oxygen in other, better ways, so any hydrogen deletion is for me a no-go.

[Cotaks]

Origineel geplaatst door Angpaur:

To me electrolyzers main purpose is hydrogen production, as it is the only way to get hydrogen other than vents. I can produce oxygen in other, better ways, so any hydrogen deletion is for me a no-go.

yes in that context, i agree completly, you don't wanna lose anything, but becuse this is about the spom, then it really doesn't matter at all.

[Hedning]

Unless you connect it to the grid, then you could use that 5% to power your other machines and save on fossil fuels.

[gimmethegepgun]

Origineel geplaatst door Angpaur:

To me electrolyzers main purpose is hydrogen production, as it is the only way to get hydrogen other than vents. I can produce oxygen in other, better ways, so any hydrogen deletion is for me a no-go.

Every other way of producing oxygen is non-renewable except morbs, oxyferns, or I guess trying to get mass offgassing of pwater or pdirt which will take a huge amount of space for not much extra efficiency.

[Strygald]

Origineel geplaatst door gimmethegepgun:

Origineel geplaatst door Angpaur:

To me electrolyzers main purpose is hydrogen production, as it is the only way to get hydrogen other than vents. I can produce oxygen in other, better ways, so any hydrogen deletion is for me a no-go.

Every other way of producing oxygen is non-renewable except morbs, oxyferns, or I guess trying to get mass offgassing of pwater or pdirt which will take a huge amount of space for not much extra efficiency.

You don't need that much space if you use conveyor chutes for polluted dirt; you don't need much space if you 'exploit' the fact that airflow tiles don't break from pressure and door automation can be used to compress polluted water.

[Bokonon]

Origineel geplaatst door Cotaks:

spom = self powring oxygen MODULE, not rooms. You can hate me for it, but it ain't a module :P

Self Powered Oxygen Maker is what it means to me. Who gives a crap if it's a "module" (whatever that means). It makes oxygen, it powers itself with slight excess. I don't care what anyone calls it it's a SPOM to me and many others.

I only care about it's functionality, the "what" it does, I couldn't care less as to "how" ...

[Angpaur]

Origineel geplaatst door Strygald:

Origineel geplaatst door gimmethegepgun:

Every other way of producing oxygen is non-renewable except morbs, oxyferns, or I guess trying to get mass offgassing of pwater or pdirt which will take a huge amount of space for not much extra efficiency.

you don't need much space if you 'exploit' the fact that airflow tiles don't break from pressure

Yes, exactly this. Also offgassing from bottles is totally OP and it can as well train dupes strength.

[eberkain]

you can put a bypass valve before the filter from the top pump, that way once it clears out everything not hydrogen you can flip over and stop using power for the filter.