Oxygen Not Included

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Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 1:55am
My Aquatuner is Somehow in a Stable Temprature
I tried to make a petroleum boiler with a volcano i found, but when i made the aquatuner setup, somehow my aquatuner room is in a stable -+60C, wont rise, wont go down, even tho i didnt build any some sort of pipes to cool nor heat it.

It might seem great i guess, but the contraption's surrounding is getting hotter and hotter, which i dont want to see, when i replace the insulated tiles, the tiles changed dramaticly, what did i do wrong?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3283859759
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Big Hat Logan Jul 7, 2024 @ 3:53am 
Not sure if it's a temporary issue, but i cannot view your shared data.
Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 4:15am 
Owh, i just copy paste a screenshot link, i guess i ain't doing it right
Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 6:34am 
Originally posted by Big Hat Logan:
Not sure if it's a temporary issue, but i cannot view your shared data.
Okay, i think i fixed it, you shoud be able to see it now
some moron Jul 7, 2024 @ 11:08am 
For this problem it's probably better to do a plumbing overlay screenshot.
The aquatuner should be animating, is it? Is the liquid passing through cooler than when it goes in? If not then you have a problem with animation or pipe directions or something. Is the aquatuner moving?
Bobucles Jul 7, 2024 @ 1:10pm 
Not really sure what this room is supposed to accomplish, or where the heat is supposed to come from. Something something lava control?

Do beware that heavy wire bridges are 3x1 objects for heat transfer. They'll bleed heat out of your steam chamber.

Fluid has to actually go through the aquatuner for it to operate. Don't freeze your fluids in the process, that'll break pipes. Don't use radiated pipe for coolant in the steam chamber, or all that hard work chilling the fluid will go to waste. Of course, don't pipe lava through an aquatuner, or the steam chamber for that matter. Lava works best when it flows freely.

A petrol cooker probably doesn't need much core lava for the hot side. The main idea is to use counter flow to reclaim as much heat as possible. Cool oil enters, the lava cooks it into hot petrol, and the flow system chills it back to cool petrol(while heating up the next oil) before leaving.
Last edited by Bobucles; Jul 7, 2024 @ 1:15pm
Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 6:28pm 
Okay, heres the plumbing overlay
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284491529

And some other overlay for possible heat transfer
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284491469
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284491676

But when i went back to my game for some more screenshots, for whatever reason, the temprature suddenly wasn't stable anymore (which is good), problem solved Idk how and why the temperature was suddenly goes the way i wanted just by rebooting the game
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284492869

(the messed up temp at the bottom was just my heat gun, and i tried to cool of the hot areas outside the contraption yesterday, but it didnt work)

Originally posted by some moron:
For this problem it's probably better to do a plumbing overlay screenshot.
The aquatuner should be animating, is it? Is the liquid passing through cooler than when it goes in? If not then you have a problem with animation or pipe directions or something. Is the aquatuner moving?
Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Bobucles:
Not really sure what this room is supposed to accomplish, or where the heat is supposed to come from. Something something lava control?

Do beware that heavy wire bridges are 3x1 objects for heat transfer. They'll bleed heat out of your steam chamber.

Fluid has to actually go through the aquatuner for it to operate. Don't freeze your fluids in the process, that'll break pipes. Don't use radiated pipe for coolant in the steam chamber, or all that hard work chilling the fluid will go to waste. Of course, don't pipe lava through an aquatuner, or the steam chamber for that matter. Lava works best when it flows freely.

A petrol cooker probably doesn't need much core lava for the hot side. The main idea is to use counter flow to reclaim as much heat as possible. Cool oil enters, the lava cooks it into hot petrol, and the flow system chills it back to cool petrol(while heating up the next oil) before leaving.

Yeah i wasnt aware of the wire bridge yesterday, so i fixed it, and i didnt do the perfect counter flow because i want to (at least) try to make it as fit as possible with my enviorment, umm is it a bad thing if i didnt do a perfect heat exchange and just cool the rest of the heat with steam turbines?
Bobucles Jul 7, 2024 @ 9:49pm 
The counterflow system adds complexity for an efficiency boost. It recycles the heat as much as possible by using hot petrol to trade heat with cool oil. If you just mix them and average the temperature it only averages out to 50/50, but if the pipes run opposite ways then they'll do a bunch of small trades so it's more like a 80/20 heat trade. It's fun to try out but if you have a ton of lava to spare, don't worry about it.

Good counterflow setups take a lot of time and experimentation. There are quite a few black magic tricks, such as knowing the order of heat calculations so flowing left is different than flowing right. Focus on the main meat of cooking the oil, and take advantage of the quick solution of using a steam chamber to cool the petrol.
Last edited by Bobucles; Jul 7, 2024 @ 9:56pm
Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by Bobucles:
The counterflow system adds complexity for an efficiency boost. It recycles the heat as much as possible by using hot petrol to trade heat with cool oil. If you just mix them and average the temperature it only averages out to 50/50, but if the pipes run opposite ways then they'll do a bunch of small trades so it's more like a 80/20 heat trade. It's fun to try out but if you have a ton of lava to spare, don't worry about it.

Good counterflow setups take a lot of time and experimentation. There are quite a few black magic tricks, such as knowing the order of heat calculations so flowing left is different than flowing right. Focus on the main meat of cooking the oil, and take advantage of the quick solution of using a steam chamber to cool the petrol.

Huh alright, i guess i could made a little more improvement on the heat exchange. Thx for the info
Bak Su Jul 7, 2024 @ 11:05pm 
So i guess the stable temperature problem is just a bug i guess. Im glad its over
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