Oxygen Not Included

Oxygen Not Included

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KINDY May 4, 2023 @ 4:11am
Kindly ask to the trick to manage with the hot water
As I faced with using hot water. This is the only water resource I have in one pond.

So, the pond is quite big, and the temp is around 45-60 Celsius (as it come from Geysor).

Anyone have the trick to cool down the large hot pond kindly share it with me.

Thanks
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Bobucles May 4, 2023 @ 5:40am 
The best way, unfortunately, is to not spend all your cold water in the first place. Cool water is a precious resource that needs to be budgeted in the early days of your colony. 45-60C water is in a lousy spot where it's not good for much of anything.

Supercomputer research consumes Olympic swimming pools worth of water. Dupes will happily grab that water from your starting pile if it has a pump, but that's also the best water to use for everything else. Bristle blossoms devour water surprisingly fast. Duplicant bathrooms are also a water hazard, as dupes will add 40C water to the mix, eventually overheating the supply.

Electrolyzers will always output 70C+ oxygen, but the gas outputs are much easier to manage than water heat. Feed them the hottest water you can, it's a great way to delete excess heat energy from the map.

Search the map for a frost biome and harvest some ice. Use that ice to construct tempshift plates in your water. It'll melt nearly instantly, quickly restoring the water to normal temperature. Mining ice will delete 50% of it, so it's a better idea to melt it to claim all of the cold water.
Last edited by Bobucles; May 4, 2023 @ 5:42am
Alucard † May 4, 2023 @ 6:11am 
Depending on size of that pool and if you have access to ice you can put a bin then load it with signifficantly cold ice or better yet build tempshift plate made of cold ice in your pool.

And let it melt to mix your hot water with cold water.

Carefull to not overflow it and cause flooding :P

And be mindful that ice is not unlimited or very scarce depending on map you are playing. So it's more of a tempoary solution.
Last edited by Alucard †; May 4, 2023 @ 6:11am
AlexMBrennan May 4, 2023 @ 6:45am 
You did not specify but I am going to assume that you are talking about one of the cool steam vent since you are guaranteed to get one such exposed vent.

The best option is to be lucky and have access to cold slush/salt water geysers.

Failing that, the the only real cooling solution is the aquatuner. Put the aquatuner in a steam room, add some steam turbines to keep the AT cool, and then run some radiant pipes filled with polluted water (or, later in the game, supercoolant) through the vent room to condense the steam.

The electrolysers can use hot water without ill effects but if you are using the water to grow plants then you are going to need a 2nd reservoir which you can cool down to 20C or whatever using a 2nd aquatuner.
Angpaur May 4, 2023 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
load it with signifficantly cold ice or better yet build tempshift plate made of cold ice in your pool.
This will not be better, it will be much worse. By melting tempshift plates you lose 80% of potential cooling power, because for buildings only 20% of its mass is considered during calculation of heat transfer. So to maximize cooling effect of ice you need to melt the chunks or even better melt the unmined tiles, becuase mining it out is another loss of 50% of mass and thus cooling power.
Bobucles May 4, 2023 @ 8:43am 
Indeed the tempshift plate suffers from a 0.2x thermal mass effect. Placing a -250C tempshift with 98C water ended up with 35C water. It isn't that big a deal because ice already starts close to 0C, so it won't get hurt too hard. It's still a handy way of moving ice across the map and making FAST thermal changes. If you're not in a rush, just cancel the build and it'll drop the ice directly into the water.
schnappkatze May 4, 2023 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by Bobucles:
Duplicant bathrooms are also a water hazard, as dupes will add 40C water to the mix, eventually overheating the supply.

Just FYI, I think the 40C water output of the sieve is not there anymore, the wiki explicitly says "The Water Sieve does not change the water temperature."

So having a bathroom should not add to the water temperature. No idea when that was changed. Or did you mean sth else?

Edit: Ah, you probably mean the 6.7 Kilogram of 37C polluted water that dupes produce when they use the lavatory, I didn't think about that.
Last edited by schnappkatze; May 4, 2023 @ 10:32am
JasonS May 4, 2023 @ 1:24pm 
Best option in the early game is to use it in the Electrolizer and the Super Computer. They will accept hot water just fine. Send the hot oxygen that comes out of the electolizer though an ice biome or though a Wheezewort farm to cool it down before sending it back to your base. Its much easier to cool hot oxygen than to cool down hot water. Make sure to build the Electorlizer out of Gold Amalgam for the +50 to Overheat temperature.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971400460

I don't recommend growing Bristle Berries or making Mush Bars (except in an emergency) until you have Steel and Plastic production. Then you can make an Aquatuner + Steam Turbine setup to make unlimited cold water.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971400409
redhongkong May 4, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
i guess steam turbine+aquatuner is the only way to do it for long term?
redhongkong May 4, 2023 @ 1:28pm 
use them in shower/ bathroom might works, but it will raise temp in ur core base.

wheezewort in hydrogen room might be able to help lower ur base temp tho
Ackranome May 4, 2023 @ 1:58pm 
If I recall (which this may have changed) Hydrogen is the best "gas" to pump through radiant and polluted water works well in the "ice biome loop"

Cool slush geysers work well.

Playing on an "Ice Rock" is often a solution to this problem because it isn't really a problem on an ice rock.

Anti Entropy Thermo-Nullifiers are pretty insane. It requried Hydrogen to pump in. This can make it very cold.

"Temperature plates" with "ice" as the material is a short way to resolve this and mop it.

Weeze Worts with a farm plot inbetween areas can create frozen locations. It requires a lot other things though to keep Weeze Worts going i.e. phosphorite.

Steam Aquaturners are the most efficient though.

Using the ice biome as your "water well" is generally a good thing.
Last edited by Ackranome; May 4, 2023 @ 2:02pm
some moron May 4, 2023 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Ackranome:
Steam Aquaturners are the most efficient though.

Without saying what is your measure of efficiency, this is a meaningless statement.
In fact I would argue AT are NOT the most efficient. Based on heat generation, and cost and difficulty to set up, and a mess to clean up if you change your mind and want to build something else there.
chaney May 4, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
Originally posted by some moron:
Based on heat generation

What heat generation do you mean?
Angpaur May 4, 2023 @ 11:35pm 
Originally posted by some moron:
Without saying what is your measure of efficiency, this is a meaningless statement.
What do you think the measurment could be? This whole topic is about cooling, so isin't it obvious that they were talking about cooling power efficiency?

And they were right - aquatuner and steam turbine combo is the most efficient permanent solution, if you measure by how much energy you put in and how much cooling you get per Watt. And it can run infinitely as long as you provide power, while for example melting ice biomes is just a temporary solution.

EDIT: well, actually AETN seems to be the most efficient if you compare how much power you need to pump 10g/s of hydrogen. Problem is it is not scalable (you are limited to number of the machines on your map) and sometimies just not available or hard to access, if position of the AETN is far from your base.
Last edited by Angpaur; May 5, 2023 @ 2:10am
KINDY May 5, 2023 @ 3:22am 
This is my based,

Originally posted by JasonS:
Best option in the early game is to use it in the Electrolizer and the Super Computer. They will accept hot water just fine. Send the hot oxygen that comes out of the electolizer though an ice biome or though a Wheezewort farm to cool it down before sending it back to your base. Its much easier to cool hot oxygen than to cool down hot water. Make sure to build the Electorlizer out of Gold Amalgam for the +50 to Overheat temperature.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971400460

I don't recommend growing Bristle Berries or making Mush Bars (except in an emergency) until you have Steel and Plastic production. Then you can make an Aquatuner + Steam Turbine setup to make unlimited cold water.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971400409

May I ask you that how you can add the picture of your screenshot?
AlexMBrennan May 5, 2023 @ 5:06am 
What heat generation do you mean?
Toilets produce a water surplus (turning 5kg into 11.3kg. The extra water generated is spawned at the dupe's body temperature of 37C which will eventually overheat your base.
Last edited by AlexMBrennan; May 5, 2023 @ 5:06am
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