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FRS Jan 6, 2023 @ 2:59pm
Ideas for "refined phosphorus" setups.
So I tried a refined phosphorus idea with glass and heating phophorus, but It would end up with me producing a lot of glass do warm up and more stuff.

Any other ideas to get refined phosphorus?
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gimmethegepgun Jan 6, 2023 @ 3:51pm 
The melting point of Phosphorite is well below the boiling point of water. You could easily just use a Tepidizer to heat some water and use that instead of dealing with glass.
FRS Jan 6, 2023 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:
The melting point of Phosphorite is well below the boiling point of water. You could easily just use a Tepidizer to heat some water and use that instead of dealing with glass.

I think you are wrong, phosphorite turns liquid at 243.9ºC. Are you saying to boile water? or until boile?
XceptOne Jan 6, 2023 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:
The melting point of Phosphorite is well below the boiling point of water. You could easily just use a Tepidizer to heat some water and use that instead of dealing with glass.
Nope, Phosphorite melts at around 250℃. It's the resulting Phosphorous that has its' solid-liquid transition at 44℃.

So far, I tossed my phosphorite in with a metal volcanoe. I'm also quite underwhelmed with the conversion rate, melt tons, only get kgs.
FRS Jan 6, 2023 @ 5:28pm 
Well currently did a one to one ratio, with a space heater.

What did a steal space heater, linked to a termo sensor to check if the temp is below 250ºC (all oxygen). Under the space heater, I have one mesh tile, steak weight plate, and other mesh tile.

All of this is surrounded of insulatd tile to keep the heat out of the base. I have a conveyor chute above the weight plate, and outside I have conveyor loader to get the phosphorite. From here goes thru a conveyor meter, leting pass just 1 unit. If the weight plate checks that the weight is under 10 kg, resets the meter. This keeps small mass for faster heating.

Under the mesh a pump with a sensor that when over 10 kg, pump it out.

It is better than the one I said with glass
FRS Jan 6, 2023 @ 5:37pm 
Like this: https://imgur.com/a/DQsgpZP

I am testing and it goes very well
De Espirit Jan 6, 2023 @ 5:50pm 
Before the update, I had a sour gas boiler that took in plastic and spit out liquid methane and solid sulfur. After the update, I now have a dual sour gas boiler and phosphorite refiner. I only had to change the conveyor loader's input.
gimmethegepgun Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by XceptOne:
Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:
The melting point of Phosphorite is well below the boiling point of water. You could easily just use a Tepidizer to heat some water and use that instead of dealing with glass.
Nope, Phosphorite melts at around 250℃. It's the resulting Phosphorous that has its' solid-liquid transition at 44℃.
Yep, turns out that I am derp.
gimmethegepgun Jan 7, 2023 @ 3:21am 
Well, anyway, now that I'm not tired and derping, you can use a steel Aquatuner to make a room hot enough for Phosphorite to melt. It's more efficient at getting hot than a Space Heater and doesn't create heat in the process, only moves it from one place to another. Polluted Water is the best coolant for efficiency other than Super Coolant.
XceptOne Jan 7, 2023 @ 10:10am 
So, now that I'm not tired anymore...
Of course the low conversion ratio was a fluke. Short tests in sandbox show it should be 1:1.
This leaves the question what exactly happened in my volcano, but deleted materials in chaotic situations is nothing new - No actual volcano build, just two gold volcanoes erupting into a -20℃ igneous rock/metal ore biome. And I dropped the phosphorite directly onto one of the neutronium plates. It was meant to be fetched from a deep shaft along with the gold once the volcanoes go dormant.


Anyway, while I don't have a build yet, here are some interesting observations.

Phosphorites SHC is super low, just 0.15, that's akin to gold and obsidian.
Phosphorous SHC is 0.7697, that's five times the original value.
So refining phosphorite actually creates an awful lot of heat.

While it's hard early on to come by a nice liquid temperature exchange medium that works with the target temperature range of around 250℃, the refined phosphorous itself is quite an ideal canditate once you've produced some.
At this point even the low energy tepidizer exploit should work for refining vast quantities before oil.

The target temperature range is close to what you can expect from steam-cooled steel refining.

Hydrogen and hot oxygen vents are high temperature and should be able to convert at least some small amounts.

Otherwise, I guess it might be a good idea to just integrate this with with a petrol or nat gas refinery or super coolant production or a similar high energy process that'll likely run continously.
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