Copper Volcano cooling concept problems

[FragLeg]

I stumbled upon a copper volcano right next to my base, which I had to seal immediately to prevent a bizzare end of my colony by duplicants turning into copper skeletons.

Now I would like a permanent solution to the problem and worked on a cooling concept - unfortunately, cooling is not my area of expertise (yet).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1537102422

The concept was to deconstruct a tile of the seal and have the copper trickle down into the cooling room.

The room is currently filled with hydrogen (and some leftover oxygen) about 5kg per tile. The metal tiles are made out of iron, the temp shift plates and pipes out of wolframite to get the heat away from the iron as fast as possible - the copper is at 2269°C, the iron melting point at 1534°C.

Anyway, my "problem" is that the cooling effect of the Wheezeworts is rather disappointing and I don't know if I did something wrong.

I was expecting to have the hydrogen somewhere from 30°C to 0°C within something like 10 cycles. But so far it rather seems that this could take 100 cycles by the current progress.

Any suggestions / comments / better ideas what to do?

[SamuraiJones]

Ooh, that's right in the middle of your base? I had a good solution on my other save. I'll go take you a screenshot... but it takes alot of space and if it's in the middle of your base, you might not be able to fit it in.

But yes... the heat created by a copper volcano will far outpace what five wheezeworts can do. Geysers of all kinds kick out an insane amount of heat.

[SamuraiJones]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1537227108

Ok... so not sure if it's common knowledge, but steam turbines actually cool while they're generating power. Awesome, right?

So any time the thermo sensor on the volcano gets above 270C, I trickle some water over it, which turns to steam. Once the pressure gets high enough, the steam pushes through the turbine, cooling in the process. Then the metal blocks transmit the heat back up from the volcano, and the steam pushes through the next turbine. So basically the metal prongs are always taking heat from the volcano and warming the steam as it goes through the turbines, which cools the volcano.

At the end, I've got small set of cool copper pipes that condense the steam so it can be trickled over the volcano again. The copper pipes have some petrol running through them, which is kept cool by a series of wheezeworts (off screen). I keep it insulated with abysalite and a vacuum chamber on the left.

So basically, you get alot of cooling, and a little power (the turbines run extremely sporadically), with only a little heat taken by wheezeworts. The copper hangs around 500C, but the dupes go through an oil and water bath before they remove their env suits, so it's cooled enough that it doesn't burn them.

Anyway, complex solution, but works well for me. I set this up and don't think about it. There's just always copper coming in.

[Hedning]

The easiest sources of cooling are WW, nullifiers, bathroom water, cool slush geysers, polluted water vents and carbon scrubbers.

First of all you need a circulating cooling medium. Hydrogen will be enough for this. Hydrogen is good because it doesn't change phase. A liquid like petroleum could carry more heat, but it can be frozen by a nullifier and turned into sour gas by the volcano, which is preventable, but I like to keep things simple.

Wolframite radiant pipes won't melt until almost 3k degrees, so they are good to use for this.

Do not use pumps to circulate the cooling medium. It's a waste of power. Just have a bridge in the middle of the loop and it will drive the cooling medium around.

Then just circulate your cooling medium between your cold source and your volcano. If you are using bathroom water or any piped liquid you need a heat exchange pool so you can transfer heat from one pipe to another.

[Joman]

Originally posted by SamuraiJones:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1537227108

Ok... so not sure if it's common knowledge, but steam turbines actually cool while they're generating power. Awesome, right?

So any time the thermo sensor on the volcano gets above 270C, I trickle some water over it, which turns to steam. Once the pressure gets high enough, the steam pushes through the turbine, cooling in the process. Then the metal blocks transmit the heat back up from the volcano, and the steam pushes through the next turbine. So basically the metal prongs are always taking heat from the volcano and warming the steam as it goes through the turbines, which cools the volcano.

At the end, I've got small set of cool copper pipes that condense the steam so it can be trickled over the volcano again. The copper pipes have some petrol running through them, which is kept cool by a series of wheezeworts (off screen). I keep it insulated with abysalite and a vacuum chamber on the left.

So basically, you get alot of cooling, and a little power (the turbines run extremely sporadically), with only a little heat taken by wheezeworts. The copper hangs around 500C, but the dupes go through an oil and water bath before they remove their env suits, so it's cooled enough that it doesn't burn them.

Anyway, complex solution, but works well for me. I set this up and don't think about it. There's just always copper coming in.

Wow! I like this.
One question:
Does the thermo sensor stand the heat, or does it need repairs due to the heat?

[Sundance]

I'd guess the temp shift plates do keep it from breaking.

[Joman]

Originally posted by sundance1401:

I'd guess the temp shift plates do keep it from breaking.

No the sensor is surrounded by steam, when the vulcano becomes active.

[Sundance]

I'm no expert in this, but my best guess was the temp shift plates preventing the sensor from overheating by spreading it around before going too high.