How to deal with Steam Geyser?

[Snipah Shot]

I started a seed with 2 of them near the start and only at about cycle 150 I started actually trying to use one.

What I have right now is 4 Wheezwort in the room with Thermo Aquatuner (Insulated room of about 6x6) controlled by Thermo Sensor and a room filled with Hydrogen (entrance to the room is through vacuum and all the Hydrogen is pumped back in).

It works and the water level is going down but it isn't too fast (much faster than when I didn't pump anything into the room).

I would add a screenshot but I am not at the computer (will add later).

The problem with this is that it is slow-ish and sucks up a lot of electricity, not to mention use up 4 Wheezwort.

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with all that heat? Or improvement suggestions?

[L37]

Depends on what temperature you want to get.
Good way is finding those hydrogen powered machines in ice biomes and building something like this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1308203501
Cooling speed is limited though, depending on temperature difference you want to get and amount of water you need you may have to chain a couple of them or add an aquatuner before it.
Good thing is, with automation it is possible to control temperature very precisely, like +/- 1C...

[Joman]

You can delete heat with water sieves:
They output 40°C water, even if the input water is much more hot.

So I use following setup:

- water tank with polluted water
- 2 aquatuner in there
- a pump in there
- a water sieve above the tank
- connect the pump to the sieve, than the aquatuners -> you recieve cold water at about 12°C
- put the wastewater back into the tank with the aquatuners

This setup keeps your base in a chilled cool state, but it needs some elektricity from natural gas generators.

[Snipah Shot]

Originally posted by L37:

Depends on what temperature you want to get.
Good way is finding those hydrogen powered machines in ice biomes and building something like this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1308203501
Cooling speed is limited though, depending on temperature difference you want to get and amount of water you need you may have to chain a couple of them or add an aquatuner before it.
Good thing is, with automation it is possible to control temperature very precisely, like +/- 1C...

Sadly, I think I've been in all the ice biomes and haven't seen one of those. Other than that, both Steam geysers are above/inside slime biomes which would force me to either pump around them or go through but I haven't set up for slimelung clearing yet.

Originally posted by Joman:

You can delete heat with water sieves:
They output 40°C water, even if the input water is much more hot.

So I use following setup:

- water tank with polluted water
- 2 aquatuner in there
- a pump in there
- a water sieve above the tank
- connect the pump to the sieve, than the aquatuners -> you recieve cold water at about 12°C
- put the wastewater back into the tank with the aquatuners

This setup keeps your base in a chilled cool state, but it needs some elektricity from natural gas generators.

The water around the Steam geyser is actually a bit below 40°C. Haven't seen actual Steam from them yet but I guess that when I clear all the water from there then I will have to deal with much higher temp. That is why 1 Aquatuner was enough for me though. It drops the temp from about 36-39°C to 22-25°C which ia perfect for me.

[L37]

Originally posted by Snipah Shot:

Sadly, I think I've been in all the ice biomes and haven't seen one of those. Other than that, both Steam geysers are above/inside slime biomes which would force me to either pump around them or go through but I haven't set up for slimelung clearing yet.

They are usually covered in ice, turn on gas overlay, there you can see their gas inputs.
You will have to pump water around, yes, but it is unavoidable unless you just dig a giant hole under the geyser to the nearest ice biome. Geyser outputs steam which is somwhere around 110C and 95C water, so eventually you should be ready to deal with 95C water.
You should also insulate the geysers, or they will heat up surrounding area a lot once you drain those already cooled down water.

One more way to cool the water down is - dig up some ice, put it in compactors inside your water tank. Set up a pump that pumps water from the geyser into that tank and add shutoff with temperature sensor set at whatever temperature you want. You will have to dig ice from time to time though, and it is not fast...

[Snipah Shot]

Originally posted by L37:

They are usually covered in ice, turn on gas overlay, there you can see their gas inputs.
You will have to pump water around, yes, but it is unavoidable unless you just dig a giant hole under the geyser to the nearest ice biome. Geyser outputs steam which is somwhere around 110C and 95C water, so eventually you should be ready to deal with 95C water.
You should also insulate the geysers, or they will heat up surrounding area a lot once you drain those already cooled down water.

One more way to cool the water down is - dig up some ice, put it in compactors inside your water tank. Set up a pump that pumps water from the geyser into that tank and add shutoff with temperature sensor set at whatever temperature you want. You will have to dig ice from time to time though, and it is not fast...

Ah, so they might be the weird rectangled ice blocks I saw. I did think it is weird that there is a big rectangled ice chunk in there. I think it is at the top though.might be a big project.

[doomagent13]

Depending on how much water you are actually using, the hard part is just the initial cooling of a tank of geyser water. I put a tank, made of metal tiles, to cool the geyser water in an ice biome, with several wheezworts and tempshift plates. Luckily, I thought ahead and also put a liquid tepidiser in, with both the pump and the tepidiser automatically controlled to provide an output between 5C and 20C. Since then, I have removed all the wheezworts AND added insulated tiles outside the metal tiles, and the tepidiser still runs pretty regularly.

[Gweihir]

Take care that an ice biome is not a sustainable cooling solution. I cool my water using 17 WW and 3 Nullifiers. Run though once, this gives about 10C temperature reduction at 10kg/s. Do this from a small tank (10 tiles or so) and when 25C are reached, I drain at bottom and fill in more hot water at the top via automation. This results in a reliable source of 25C water.

With 10C reduction and the geyser spitting out water at around 100C, this will eventually give around 1.3kg/s (780kg/cycle) of clean 25C water. At the moment it is a bit more, as the geyser water comes in at around 80C from a pool. Just about enough to keep 12 dupes fed via Gristleberries and to keep the lavatories running, no reserves. (Oxygen generators are fed directly with hot water.) I do expect that I will have to add 3-5WW in the end to make this run forever.

Side note: Put in a valve at the end of such a cooling cyle and set it to 9kg/s. Otherwise you get small water packets on loading or power-cycling the pump and these will freese and damage the pipes.

[Snipah Shot]

Originally posted by Gweihir:

Take care that an ice biome is not a sustainable cooling solution. I cool my water using 17 WW and 3 Nullifiers. Run though once, this gives about 10C temperature reduction at 10kg/s. Do this from a small tank (10 tiles or so) and when 25C are reached, I drain at bottom and fill in more hot water at the top via automation. This results in a reliable source of 25C water.

With 10C reduction and the geyser spitting out water at around 100C, this will eventually give around 1.3kg/s (780kg/cycle) of clean 25C water. At the moment it is a bit more, as the geyser water comes in at around 80C from a pool. Just about enough to keep 12 dupes fed via Gristleberries and to keep the lavatories running, no reserves. (Oxygen generators are fed directly with hot water.) I do expect that I will have to add 3-5WW in the end to make this run forever.

Side note: Put in a valve at the end of such a cooling cyle and set it to 9kg/s. Otherwise you get small water packets on loading or power-cycling the pump and these will freese and damage the pipes.

Still haven't found a single Nullifier :-/ I do have an ice biome that is spreading out into the adjacent oil biome (And even up towards my base in the path I made in the Abyssalite) while it only had 1 Wheezwort left. Never seen anything like it so I might start digging around and hope to find one.

Originally posted by L37:

They are usually covered in ice, turn on gas overlay, there you can see their gas inputs.
You will have to pump water around, yes, but it is unavoidable unless you just dig a giant hole under the geyser to the nearest ice biome. Geyser outputs steam which is somwhere around 110C and 95C water, so eventually you should be ready to deal with 95C water.
You should also insulate the geysers, or they will heat up surrounding area a lot once you drain those already cooled down water.

One more way to cool the water down is - dig up some ice, put it in compactors inside your water tank. Set up a pump that pumps water from the geyser into that tank and add shutoff with temperature sensor set at whatever temperature you want. You will have to dig ice from time to time though, and it is not fast...

Tried using the gas overlay and don't see any gas input in any of the 5 ice biomes I can see :-/

[Snipah Shot]

Well.. I turned off the Thermo Aquatuner because the water from the Geyser were at about 50c at that point and the water I was getting to my base ended up being 36c which is too hot for my taste.

I completely forgot I did that since I had a ton of water at that point from different polluted water areas I cleared as well as busy trying to figure out how to make an Hydrogen based cooling system with the Nullifier.

I was checking the heat in base and noticed that the entire Thermo Aquatuner room is now cold but not only that but the water is perfect now.

It is amusing while the Thermo Aquatuner was causing both the water outside of it to heat up as well as the Hydrogen and 4 Wheezworts couldn't keep up with the heat.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1309890191

[Bellringer]

Try putting the aquatuner in a tank, like pumps they're designed to work in a liquid environment.

A lot of people use a small tank of oil or petroleum with a pump, thermo sensor and aquatuner in it. Pump the oil/petrol through the aquatuner and then drip it back into it's original tank (or pipe it around as a coolant before dripping it back into it's tank) Put that beside something you want to cool and have a couple metal tiles in the connecting wall. It's one of the more common forms of heat deletion.

[attorger]

Easiest way is to build Hydrogen bubbler (see you-tube) NEED Abysilite insulated tiles - Using Granete ventilation with 3 air coolers for the hydrogen. Total power - 240 x4 (120 in filter- probably could drop but wanted 100% hydrogen.) Actualy have to shut down the system because it was producing ICE in the cooling tank.

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Originally posted by L37:

Depends on what temperature you want to get.
Good way is finding those hydrogen powered machines in ice biomes and building something like this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1308203501
Cooling speed is limited though, depending on temperature difference you want to get and amount of water you need you may have to chain a couple of them or add an aquatuner before it.
Good thing is, with automation it is possible to control temperature very precisely, like +/- 1C...

This... works?!

[L37]

Originally posted by Meat Man (Alfons):

This... works?!

And works great. Left alone it slowly cools down water, like 1-2C/cycle. With automation to add hot water when the temperature is below certain level output is extremely stable. Throughput is not that great though. To sustain 18 wheat plants + around 10 berries i had to build second one and chain them, but after that i even have some leftover cold water for other needs.
Plates have to be built out of something with high thermal conductivity though, which is rather "expensive", granite does not work.

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Originally posted by L37:

Originally posted by Meat Man (Alfons):

This... works?!

And works great. Left alone it slowly cools down water, like 1-2C/cycle. With automation to add hot water when the temperature is below certain level output is extremely stable. Throughput is not that great though. To sustain 18 wheat plants + around 10 berries i had to build second one and chain them, but after that i even have some leftover cold water for other needs.
Plates have to be built out of something with high thermal conductivity though, which is rather "expensive", granite does not work.

Thats still a lot of food , but I wonder what gas you submerged the Thermo-Nullifier in, Hydrogen? Or something of the opposite?

[L37]

Originally posted by Meat Man (Alfons):

Thats still a lot of food , but I wonder what gas you submerged the Thermo-Nullifier in, Hydrogen? Or something of the opposite?

Hydrogen. It is theoretically the best option, and is already needed for the machine itself, so alreade present at site...