can i cool hot water by running reactive pipe threw ice biome?

[mosquito]

I recently come across a gyser with hot water. i didnt realise it was hot until i pumped it into the farm area and all the plants shut down to heat. I need to get rid of the heat before they starve. i cant get any decent power generation for the device that cools water. i wonder if I pipe it threw an ice biome will it drop the heat out enough to cool the farm down? any other suggestions welcome. at cycle 72 so dont really want to start over.

[Butts McGee]

Your best bet is to build a new farm area quickly using planter boxes and skip irrigation.

You can make mushbars to tide your dupes over until the new crops grow. Then you can take a minute to solve your long term heat problem.

The cold biome doesn't supply an infinite amount of "cold'. It will eventually warm up and melt. Look into using Thermo Regulators submerged in polluted water for long term cooling. In the short term, try pumping the water out into a separate tank, letting it fall over a Wheezewort as it does. It might take a little while, but you can cool small tanks of water in a reasonable amount of time with just Wheezewort.

[Elidrin]

Short answer, yes. I make a swimming pool in the cold biome and pump water from water sieves into it to cool before being sent to bathrooms in the base.

The biome will warm up over time making 'cold' an expendable resource like algae. Don't think of it as a permanent solution by itself but it is a great one to buy you time until you have the power to run aquatuners and thermo regulators.

[AquaX]

Ice biomes can be a perm solution now with the introduction of the heat nullifer.

[mosquito]

I tried using hydrogen generator and electrolysis thing but one generator used all the hydrogen on the map. A screen size
bubble at 1000quality in about 3 cycles and the device only produces enough hydrogen to make it flash every now and then. Same with natural gas. Is it broke cause it seems not viable.

[Clonefarmer]

Originally posted by mosquito:

I tried using hydrogen generator and electrolysis thing but one generator used all the hydrogen on the map. A screen size
bubble at 1000quality in about 3 cycles and the device only produces enough hydrogen to make it flash every now and then. Same with natural gas. Is it broke cause it seems not viable.

Hydrogen generators main purpose tends to be deleting excess hydrogen not producing power. Use coal generators till you can set up a nat gas power plant.

You can divert the hydrogen away from the generator when needed. Use valves to change the flow. Once the flow is diverted to a nullifier you'll have plenty of hydrogen.

The electrolyzers will stop working at a max pressure. Each electrolyzer requires 2 pumps to work continually.

[Truthowl]

Originally posted by AquaX:

Ice biomes can be a perm solution now with the introduction of the heat nullifer.

What is a 'heat nullifier'?

[Clonefarmer]

Originally posted by Truthowl:

Originally posted by AquaX:

Ice biomes can be a perm solution now with the introduction of the heat nullifer.

What is a 'heat nullifier'?

Anti Entropy Nullifier. They can be found in the ice biome. Basically a large weezwort that runs on hydrogen. They delete heat when hydrogen is pumped into them.
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[mosquito]

Originally posted by Clonefarmer:

Originally posted by mosquito:

I tried using hydrogen generator and electrolysis thing but one generator used all the hydrogen on the map. A screen size
bubble at 1000quality in about 3 cycles and the device only produces enough hydrogen to make it flash every now and then. Same with natural gas. Is it broke cause it seems not viable.

Hydrogen generators main purpose tends to be deleting excess hydrogen not producing power. Use coal generators till you can set up a nat gas power plant.

You can divert the hydrogen away from the generator when needed. Use valves to change the flow. Once the flow is diverted to a nullifier you'll have plenty of hydrogen.

The electrolyzers will stop working at a max pressure. Each electrolyzer requires 2 pumps to work continually.

Seems like a electrolysis thing and 2 pumps uses all the power. Same as coal generator and carbon scrubbers. I don't understand what you mean by piping the hydrogen away with valves. Do you mean stockpile it until there is enough to use? Maybe a screenshot could help me understand please.

[AquaX]

For just 10g of hydrogen a sec, you can yank 400w of heat a sec from the world. If left on, it can drop the surrounding temp to at most -175. To turn it on, all you need it have an air pipe sending hydrogen into it.

With this machine, depending on your understanding you can keep most basic systems cool.

I use this baby along with co2 to create a cooling cycle which forces co2 into a solid state and drop it into hot geyser water. The water will lose heat to turn the co2 back to gas and once it leaves, the cycle repeats until the water turns to ice. I have tested this with a large tank and 95 degree geyser water and it turn to ice in a few cycles.

[Clonefarmer]

Originally posted by mosquito:

Seems like a electrolysis thing and 2 pumps uses all the power. Same as coal generator and carbon scrubbers. I don't understand what you mean by piping the hydrogen away with valves. Do you mean stockpile it until there is enough to use? Maybe a screenshot could help me understand please.

The pumps and electrolyzer use more power than they generate. You'll need a power source to run them. A coal generator or two to start with should be enough. Mid game a nat gas power plant will be needed.

Since the hydrogen produced by the electrolyzers provides so little power. It's actually better to send it to a nullifier.

The hydrogen will get backed up if not sent somewhere. The hydrogen generator takes care of this problem and also gives back a little power in the proccess. Once a nullifier is available the hydrogen can be diverted there.

Edit: Don't worry about removing co2 with scrubbers. Just dig down toward the oil biome. The co2 will pool in the lowest spot and can be delt with later.

[Truthowl]

Originally posted by Clonefarmer:

Originally posted by Truthowl:

What is a 'heat nullifier'?

Anti Entropy Nullifier. They can be found in the ice biome. Basically a large weezwort that runs on hydrogen. They delete heat when hydrogen is pumped into them.

Thank you @Clonefarmer. Do you know if they are in every world? Can they be moved?

[Clonefarmer]

At least 2 spawn in every world. They can't be moved.

[SKull]

Think it got mentioned, but you can slowly cool water by pumping it up to a vent that sits above a wheezewort. Isn't instant or anything but it definitely works. Just need power for the pump and about ten pipelengths to do it too. Simpler and cheaper than laying endless pipes through a cold biome or running a thermo.

[Butts McGee]

Originally posted by SKull:

Think it got mentioned, but you can slowly cool water by pumping it up to a vent that sits above a wheezewort. Isn't instant or anything but it definitely works. Just need power for the pump and about ten pipelengths to do it too. Simpler and cheaper than laying endless pipes through a cold biome or running a thermo.

That's enough for small scale cold water production. Once you start consuming.massive quantities of water, it won't enough. One Wort can't keep up with a geyser's heat production (unless you go the extra mile to chill the geyser itself)

[SKull]

Originally posted by CAT STATUS: SPOOPED:

Originally posted by SKull:

Think it got mentioned, but you can slowly cool water by pumping it up to a vent that sits above a wheezewort. Isn't instant or anything but it definitely works. Just need power for the pump and about ten pipelengths to do it too. Simpler and cheaper than laying endless pipes through a cold biome or running a thermo.

That's enough for small scale cold water production. Once you start consuming.massive quantities of water, it won't enough. One Wort can't keep up with a geyser's heat production (unless you go the extra mile to chill the geyser itself)

Sort of. But you can use multiple plants and pumps. Works fine for me. Waterfall tank full of warts with six or seven pumps circulating the water constantly. I think they have a cumulative effect. I've even had problem with the water and my base becoming too cold in the late game when doing this.