Spaced Out is a bad choice for long gameplays

[Jarcionek]

I like to play long on a single world, therefore I am primarily interested in renewable resources. Base game allows to obtain infinite amounts of almost everything by sending rockets to the right asteroids, but in Spaced Out it's not the case any more. Seven asteroids in total, but after hundreds of hours into the game, it turns out that 3 out of 4 end game resources are not even available...

Asteroids

Starting asteroid - only one water geyser with temperature below 95C, but otherwise ok:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483839897

Asteroid with teleporters - quite good, a lot of cold water geysers:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483839990

Asteroid number three - rather useless, 3 iron volcanos but the previous two asteroids have 1 each, only one Wheezewort in the entire asteroid:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483840039

Asteroid number four - infinite Niobium, amazing:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483840103

Asteroid number five - Gassy Moos - I have never actually tried them so it's ok (but it got bugged):

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483840157

Asteroid number six - deep aquatic world with tons of water, but no Pips nor Arbor Trees despite the Barren biome - rather useless:

EDIT: There is Graphite in asteroid's core that can be used to make Fullerene.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483840207

Asteroid number seven - two Tungsten Volcanos so with infinite Niobium on asteroid number four it means infinite Thermium, great:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2483840288

Summing up:

• No Fullerene so no Super Coolant EDIT: Aquatic work has Graphite which can be used to make Fullerene
  
• No Isoresin so no Insulation nor Visco-Gel
  
• No Pips so no wild plants
  
• No Arbor Trees so no Ethanol nor Wood, so no Sauna nor Hot Tub
  

[Lex_Ms]

Is there a finite number of asteroids?

[Jarcionek]

Originally posted by Lex_Ms:

Is there a finite number of asteroids?

Yes. What you can see on the screenshots is all. Despite there being 10 hexes from the starting asteroid to the edge of the starmap, the furthest asteroids are only 5 hexes away. That's close enough to reach by the petroleum rocket (although it will need to land and refuel).

[Big Hat Logan]

From the earthly resin update:
Added "Resin" material to the game. This is a precursor to Isoresin
Added “Graphite” material and recipes to the game. This is a precursor to Fullerene

I have pips and arbor trees at least on one of my asteroids.

Maybe, you started your game some months ago, when there were no resin, graphite and pip.s

[Shame]

Originally posted by Big Hat Logan:

Added “Graphite” material and recipes to the game. This is a precursor to Fullerene

Is graphite renewable in any way? Or are limited on materials that require fullerene?

[.triple Cat]

So I shouldn't buy it?

[Big Hat Logan]

@Shame: afaik Graphite is not renewable atm
@G3n4o: the DLC is still in early access. However, it considerably improved since EA release.

[Jarcionek]

Originally posted by Big Hat Logan:

Maybe, you started your game some months ago, when there were no resin, graphite and pip.s

I started 2-3 weeks ago, there was no update since then.

Originally posted by Big Hat Logan:

Added "Resin" material to the game. This is a precursor to Isoresin
Added “Graphite” material and recipes to the game. This is a precursor to Fullerene

Thanks for the pointer. I found Graphite at the bottom of the oceanic world and noticed that Molecular Forge has a recipe for Fullerene (100kg = 90kg Graphite + 5kg Sulfur + 5kg Aluminum).

However, there is no such recipe for Isoresin and Resin seems to exist in the database only.

[Xilo The Odd]

good thing the DLC isnt done yet. its feeling pretty close though.

[AlexMBrennan]

So I shouldn't buy it?

Probably not - Early Access is a gamble where you get nothing if you win, and end up with a broken/unfinished game if you lose.

[Big Hat Logan]

You may participate in the development process. Plus, EA usually is cheaper. I trust klei that I will have enough fun for the money

[cystof1989]

There is Resin Tree on marshy asteroid, so yes there is resin (totally renewable so you can have infinite isoresin). Graphite might not be renewable but there is enough of it to propably flood entire starting asteroid with super coolant. One more thing on base game around cycle 2000 i can literally walk away and my colony would still be fine without me, infinte food, oxy, power, temp management, space has been conquered etc. there is nothing else for me to do. In DLC after 2500+ cycles i still had things to do, improve interplanetary transport, figuring the best way to feed that damn tree, 2 asteroid still hasn't been settled and more. For me DLC is way better for long play than original

[Jarcionek]

Ah, so that's what in the ruins on my Asteroid number 7. And there is no recipe for Isoresin, because you just have to boil Resin. It's a shame that database shows that it only boils into Steam rather than into two elements...

Thanks!

[Shame]

Originally posted by Jarcionek:

Ah, so that's what in the ruins on my Asteroid number 7. And there is no recipe for Isoresin, because you just have to boil Resin. It's a shame that database shows that it only boils into Steam rather than into two elements...

Thanks!

Same goes for sour gas, it tells you it turns to liquid methane at very cold temperature, but a third of it or so also turns to sulphur, something that is completely useless in the base game.

[Jarcionek]

Originally posted by Shame:

(...) sulphur, something that is completely useless in the base game.

It's pretty useless in the DLC too. It is an ingredient of Super Coolant (indirectly), but otherwise it can be converted to sugar via Sweetles, but the sugar can be only used for mid quality food. No other uses. Maybe for cooling things in space, as it evaporates in ~350C.

[MaxKool007]

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

So I shouldn't buy it?

Probably not - Early Access is a gamble where you get nothing if you win, and end up with a broken/unfinished game if you lose.

not really in this case tho... this isnt a EA from scratch game where they might run away with our money. this is klei we are are talking about. be real here.