Steam turbine liquid vent Overpressure

[Bolero]

I had a Steam Turbine and Aquatuner setup. Aquatuner is working but the Steam Turbine wasn't. The water turned to steam already with no water left but the Steam Engine stopped working after with the liquid Vent blocked due to overpressure. Any solution?

Where you place the aquatuner do you fill it with water to the top? I was thinking maybe when all the water turned to steam in exceeded the pressure the liquid Vent can manage and next time I just fill it half-way.

Already started a new game an overwritten my first game.

[Hedning]

You can click the steam turbine to find out why it isn't working. A screenshot would help too, but include the status of the steam turbine.

It can be a little bit tricky spreading out the heat from the aquatuner in a low pressure environment and <5kg/tile is pretty low pressure for an aquatuner, so it can be a good idea to spill some oil or petroleum along the bottom and even place some tempshft plates connected to that bottom row to spread the heat even faster.

[Bolero]

It stopped working because the Steam Turbine pipe is blocked.
Its blocked because the Liquid Vent is overpressured. I'm pretty sure the Steam Turbine isn't overheating. Anyway I'm int that part of my Game again where I'll be building my aquatuner again. I'll get a screenshot if it happens again.

[Hedning]

Ok, I misread what you wrote. I thought you were talking about a cool steam vent, but you are talking about the liquid vent.

If your liquid vent is overpressurizing that means your water tank is full. Increase the water tank, remove some water or just let it stop, depending on your situation. If you have enough water you don't need to add more with the steam turbine, so just let it idle until you need more water. If you are using the turbine primarily for cooling the aquatuner then loop the water back into the chamber with the aquatuner.

[Illuminia]

I haven't seen it documented anywhere yet.... but from my own experience: It seems the Liquid Vent goes into overpressure state if the Steam gas pressure around it is above 1000g.
(Wiki notes it does this for liquid pressure, but nothing about gas. I've observed this on 3 different aquatuner/steam turbine setups I've built. )

[Hedning]

Vents only care about pressure in kg, not what element it is. This is commonly used to trick eg gas vents to keep outputting gas regardless of gas pressure by having a small amount of liquid cover the vent because the liquid can obviously not be compressed by the gas.

[Strygald]

Originally posted by Illuminia:

I haven't seen it documented anywhere yet.... but from my own experience: It seems the Liquid Vent goes into overpressure state if the Steam gas pressure around it is above 1000g.
(Wiki notes it does this for liquid pressure, but nothing about gas. I've observed this on 3 different aquatuner/steam turbine setups I've built. )

it is around 1000kg, back in the old days before steam turbines even existed it stopped water exiting liquid pipes after the water level exceeded the height of the liquid vent... water having a base 999kg per tile when full.

As Hedning stated, they didn't code vents to check what element the vent is located in, so it doesn't matter if it is 1000kg of water or 1000kg of CO2, either will cause overpressure. This oversight in coding also leads to the ever popular and heatedly defended exploit whereby the vent is 'tricked' into not overpressuring by trapping a small amount of liquid or gas on the vent cell... it works simply because only one element is allowed per cell.

[Hedning]

I don't think it's an oversight. It makes sense since "density"=pressure.

[Strygald]

Originally posted by Hedning:

I don't think it's an oversight. It makes sense since "density"=pressure.

Fine, maybe the oversight is in the way 1kg of liquid can keep 10000kg of gas away from the vent to stop it overpressuring

[Hedning]

Not sure what your criteria is for calling things an oversight. Seems to me that's just how they decided things to work. They decided that things take up full squares and not be too bothered by physics. Would you consider this an oversight?
https://i.imgur.com/49ouLVC.png

[Strygald]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Not sure what your criteria is for calling things an oversight. Seems to me that's just how they decided things to work. They decided that things take up full squares and not be too bothered by physics. Would you consider this an oversight?
https://i.imgur.com/49ouLVC.png

of course i would, especially when you can do things like this with it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2151320264

[Hedning]

So an oversight to you depends on what you can do with it? Like even if it is an intentional game rule it is an oversight because you can build unrealistic things with it?
Would you consider the mechanic in minecraft that the tree hovers after you punched its trunk an oversight?

[Strygald]

I don't care about minecraft, the point is: did the developers intend for 10g of gas to hold back 1000s of kgs of liquid in their game? no. Otherwise, liquid would not flow horizontally in a gas-filled area under normal circumstances in the game. It is an oversight because they chose to use a simplistic "game rule" without considering/realizing this exception occurs that allows for some funky gas and liquid behavior in the game.

[Big Hat Logan]

At least now i know why my petroleum chamber overflows. Even though the vent was fully submerged it added more petroleum. With water that did not happen. Cause water has 1000 kg base pressure per tile, petroleum less. Played 400 hours and still learning new things. Amazing.
Edit: heard about those infinite pressure chambers before, but intentionally never looked at it because i don't like abusing game mechanics.

[Bolero]

Just learning how to use the sandbox, I tested and it seems a high gas pressure would keep your liquid vent from working. i guess I don't have to fill the chamber to the brim with water.