Heat Transfer bug?

[JasonS]

My petrol boiler, powered by a volcano, kept breaking and I didn't know why until I noticed I have a 1000 degree tile of solidified magma touching a 200 degree steel door and almost no heat transfer is occurring.

I have no idea what triggers this to happen, sometimes I've had it running fine for 100 cycles without issue and sometimes I start it up and it breaks as soon as the magma solidifies.

Has anybody ran into this before?

[voyager]

is the door open? nothing can transfer heat into opened mechanical doors

[JasonS]

Originally posted by Voyager:

is the door open? nothing can transfer heat into opened mechanical doors

Yes that's the first thing I checked. I'm not that clueless.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by JasonS:

Originally posted by Voyager:

is the door open? nothing can transfer heat into opened mechanical doors

Yes that's the first thing I checked. I'm not that clueless.

did you toggle the doors? might be the game has the wrong state saved. so it is closed but treated as open. had similar things like this happen with other machines, and a door is basically a machine.

[mrmashpotatohead]

if it is in a vacuum put a temp shift plate down. heat transfer doesn't work in a vacuum.

[JasonS]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by JasonS:

Yes that's the first thing I checked. I'm not that clueless.

did you toggle the doors? might be the game has the wrong state saved. so it is closed but treated as open. had similar things like this happen with other machines, and a door is basically a machine.

Yes I tried that, didn't work. The only thing that works to make it function again is mining out the rock tiles and using the magma to make new ones, but it breaks again later anyway.

Originally posted by mrmashpotatohead:

if it is in a vacuum put a temp shift plate down. heat transfer doesn't work in a vacuum.

Yes there are tempshift plates but you don't even need a medium for solid to solid heat transfer and besides the system wouldn't be working for 100's of cycles and then suddenly stop working if that was the issue.

[Xilo The Odd]

well im stumped. maybe a screenshot would help.

[JasonS]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

well im stumped. maybe a screenshot would help.

Here's a pic, its working fine right now but sometimes it just stops transfering heat and the boiler overfills with Crude Oil.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2252703671

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by JasonS:

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

well im stumped. maybe a screenshot would help.

Here's a pic, its working fine right now but sometimes it just stops transfering heat and the boiler overfills with Crude Oil.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2252703671

where does the heat sometimes stop? for the whole thing or does it get into the glass and then stop? or the door?

my only thinking is maybe use a different material than the glass and see if this behavior pops up again, if not then thats the only thing i can think of that could possibly be the issue if the heat remains trapped in the rocks.

if it gets to the glass each time, but doesnt transfer through the door, then something is up with whatever is built there.

[Ray]

I've just a guess, but try adding metal tiles below it connected to your other tiles. Its possible the heat doesn't transfer to well via solid from the side of a door.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by Ray:

I've just a guess, but try adding metal tiles below it connected to your other tiles. Its possible the heat doesn't transfer to well via solid from the side of a door.

it does transfer like normal under normal circumstances. its a method to give heat transfer in a vacuum a on off switch. that way the other side doesnt get too hot and the heat is also not wasted. door open = no transfer, door closed = full transfer. its a fairly useful mechanic. but it can bug out as the OP has pointed out.

[JasonS]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by JasonS:

Here's a pic, its working fine right now but sometimes it just stops transfering heat and the boiler overfills with Crude Oil.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2252703671

where does the heat sometimes stop? for the whole thing or does it get into the glass and then stop? or the door?

my only thinking is maybe use a different material than the glass and see if this behavior pops up again, if not then thats the only thing i can think of that could possibly be the issue if the heat remains trapped in the rocks.

if it gets to the glass each time, but doesnt transfer through the door, then something is up with whatever is built there.

It stops at the door.

I did a few searches online and they said if you put a Pipe/vent bridge in the door it fixes it, and that worked. Very weird bug in any case.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by JasonS:

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

where does the heat sometimes stop? for the whole thing or does it get into the glass and then stop? or the door?

my only thinking is maybe use a different material than the glass and see if this behavior pops up again, if not then thats the only thing i can think of that could possibly be the issue if the heat remains trapped in the rocks.

if it gets to the glass each time, but doesnt transfer through the door, then something is up with whatever is built there.

It stops at the door.

I did a few searches online and they said if you put a Pipe/vent bridge in the door it fixes it, and that worked. Very weird bug in any case.

huh, good to know atleast. i definently learned something before i put my boiler together on my oceania map.

though i got a lot of work before then... the spot i want to build it is at the core... and its a pre dug spot that has been filled with sour gas, molten lead, and petrol. currently fighting temps by letting a slush geyser just dump on the surface rock and flashing to steam. its a problem that is slowly solving itself.

[voyager]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by JasonS:

It stops at the door.

I did a few searches online and they said if you put a Pipe/vent bridge in the door it fixes it, and that worked. Very weird bug in any case.

huh, good to know atleast. i definently learned something before i put my boiler together on my oceania map.

though i got a lot of work before then... the spot i want to build it is at the core... and its a pre dug spot that has been filled with sour gas, molten lead, and petrol. currently fighting temps by letting a slush geyser just dump on the surface rock and flashing to steam. its a problem that is slowly solving itself.

that sounds like a really bad solution unless i'm misunderstanding. having your petrol boiler in a vacuum is one of the best ways to keep things from messing up. if you're gonna be creating tons and tons of steam, you have a lot more gas to pump out

[GoForTopher]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by JasonS:

It stops at the door.

I did a few searches online and they said if you put a Pipe/vent bridge in the door it fixes it, and that worked. Very weird bug in any case.

huh, good to know atleast. i definently learned something before i put my boiler together on my oceania map.

though i got a lot of work before then... the spot i want to build it is at the core... and its a pre dug spot that has been filled with sour gas, molten lead, and petrol. currently fighting temps by letting a slush geyser just dump on the surface rock and flashing to steam. its a problem that is slowly solving itself.

You're wasting tons of power, use the heat from the area to run steam turbines and you'll cool down the area while also reclaiming power you can either store or use to expand quicker.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by GoForTopher:

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

huh, good to know atleast. i definently learned something before i put my boiler together on my oceania map.

though i got a lot of work before then... the spot i want to build it is at the core... and its a pre dug spot that has been filled with sour gas, molten lead, and petrol. currently fighting temps by letting a slush geyser just dump on the surface rock and flashing to steam. its a problem that is slowly solving itself.

You're wasting tons of power, use the heat from the area to run steam turbines and you'll cool down the area while also reclaiming power you can either store or use to expand quicker.

oh i know, its thermally sealed. i'm just waiting on the plastic to be produced for the turbines.

eventually to clear out all the steam gas atleast, i'll simply make the output not feed back into the chamber and that should get it into a vacuum state. then i can setup a more advanced cooling loop to get that sour gas to cool off and be used as power for a bit since there is waaaaaay too much sour gas as it is. then it'll just be cleanup, making it 100% pure vacuum, and start dumping oil into it. its going to be kind of a messy method of doing it but it'll get me large amounts of petrol quickly, which i can then use for all sorts of things. and beings its near the core, i wont run out of heat anytime soon.