Is it possible to tame a metal volcano without a steam turbine?

[Spaz]

Title says it all, im on the frozen asteroid and im running out of metal. i have a copper volcano but i have not gotten to the point of running a refinery yet, im still new to the game. is there any way to make use of the volcanos metal output without using a steam turbine?

[mikek]

rime is cold enough, you can open it for some time, till stuff heats up to much.

[XceptOne]

Yes, drop the molten metal into a pool of water(pwater usually). When the water gets too hot replace it (don't let evaporate or use clean water otherwise).
Start with at least 4t (or more) of water (using pwater at around 0C that gave me about 4-5 eruptions on an average gold volcano before water needed changing, most likely less for copper and even more likely less for unwanted heat-transfers).
Finally, using airlock-doors and temperature-sensors you can automate the process.

This is, of course, just an example of what you can do. There are lots of variations on that theme and some other options too.

[cswiger]

Sure. Build a water-lock leading to the volcano to keep steam from escaping. (Use oil/petroleum if you have any.)

Create a pool of water with at least 2-3 tons where the volcano will output molten copper. Have a auto-sweeper and conveyor loader, made of steel if you can, gold amalgam otherwise.

If all of the water turns to steam and it is too hot for the materials you use, use more water.

You need less for a gold volcano, medium amount for a copper volcano, and more water for an iron volcano. A steel auto-sweeper can tolerate up to ~275 C steam, whereas gold amalgam will start taking damage at 125 C, so using gold means using a lot more water.

Route the conveyor rails through the pond or some other water to help remove heat.

[Xilo The Odd]

in all honesty its easier to get just enough plastic for a single steam turbine for a copper one and building it so you can generate power and keep a decent amount of water, salt water, or brine in the tank with the volcano. the heat has to go somewhere from it erupting and transferring to the water fluids and steam can get messy without a turbine. so plop down a polymer press to make jsut enough plastic or get a glossy drecko or two made.

i dont see taming a volcano full on happening without a turbine and it being a very good design.

[madcow]

Don't refine all your metal in an Ore Crusher or this situation happens...you lose half the metal you would have gotten if you refined in refinery.

Stop avoiding making a metal refinery; you need it anyways for steel.

[Spaz]

Originally posted by madcow:

Don't refine all your metal in an Ore Crusher or this situation happens...you lose half the metal you would have gotten if you refined in refinery.

Stop avoiding making a metal refinery; you need it anyways for steel.

I accidently had my copper set to run forever on the rock crusher... hence the reason i need more lol. i would use a turbine but i havent found any oil yet.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by Spaz:

Originally posted by madcow:

Don't refine all your metal in an Ore Crusher or this situation happens...you lose half the metal you would have gotten if you refined in refinery.

Stop avoiding making a metal refinery; you need it anyways for steel.

I accidently had my copper set to run forever on the rock crusher... hence the reason i need more lol. i would use a turbine but i havent found any oil yet.

then your alternate is Drecko ranching if you do not want to dig deep, or get lucky with the print pod and create a slickster egg or 3 and move them to a ranch to eat all of your CO2 emissions. then turn that oil into plastic.

[Spaz]

i have only just barely learned how to ranch hatches lmao

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by Spaz:

Originally posted by madcow:

Don't refine all your metal in an Ore Crusher or this situation happens...you lose half the metal you would have gotten if you refined in refinery.

Stop avoiding making a metal refinery; you need it anyways for steel.

I accidently had my copper set to run forever on the rock crusher... hence the reason i need more lol. i would use a turbine but i havent found any oil yet.

Ok, wait, slow down.

First thing, don't leave your Rock Crusher on forever early in the game, but you seem to know that now. So a screenshot (alt-s for screenshot mode and zoom out so we can see what you're working with overall) would help. Are you low on/out of Copper or Copper Ore or both? There's ores and there's refined metals and you need both. Some buildings take ores to build and others refined metals. The only things I can think of off the top of my head that I leave on forever early in the game are lime (egg shells, pokeshell molts and fossil) in the Rock Crusher and clay to ceramic in the Kiln.

And you also say you haven't found oil so I'm wondering how much digging and exploring you've done. That's why I asked for a zoomed out screenshot. You probably just need to dig more. Also use the Materials Overlay to look for metals on the map and go dig them. You've probably just hit a point where you need to dig for more resources and explore more of the map in the process.

Edit: I'm just slightly confused. Your title is about taming a metal volcano which will give you refined metal. But you talk about the Rock Crusher on forever thing too so it sounds like you also need ore. My confusion is over the fact that you can tame 100 metal volcanos, they won't help you build a simple wire which requires ore. You need to dig for ore.

[Spaz]

I havent thought about the fact i would get refined metal from the volcano, but i suppose it makes sense now that its not gunna cool down into an ore. I do need to dig more, ive just been cautious trying to avoid getting too much polluted o2 or freezing air into my base. i can send a screenshot shortly

[Spaz]

https://i.imgur.com/oprz9vo.png This is the extent of my dig so far. colony is less than 40 cycles old. I have encountered oil in previous colonies, but its always right next to magma and is far too hot to acess

[Bokonon]

Yeah, you just need to dig out more metals, you have plenty. Use the Materials Overlay and select metals from the filter so you have a better idea where to spend time digging.

Oil's not the important thing, yes it's hot down there. The point was that if you hadn't found oil yet you probably just haven'e dug out enough metals yet because you just hadn't explored much yet.

You've got a good start with the long vertical ladder, now dig horizontally to dig out more resources to use.

[cswiger]

You've got that copper volcano and that cool steam vent next to each other.
Introduce them and have them become friends. :-)

Dig a path for water to move from the CSV to a pond that will cool down the copper volcano's output. Once you get the resources to make a steam turbine, place it above the copper volcano to eat the steam produced when the molten copper appears.

[ferrelas]

I've ended up making a really weird setup for my copper volcano, I dump toilet water on it, killing the germs and boiling it, it goes through air flow tiles into a 2nd room, for cooling.

This is where it gets weird, I make petrolium in a refinery near the bottom with the oil, that's then piped through a cold boime, and then sen to a loop that's set up near the volcano to heat it to 80 C for heat deletion in the petrolium generators. So far I haven't beena ble to cool the genreators enough, so I mostly just get hot polluted water out of it. And also way too much copper.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by cswiger:

You've got that copper volcano and that cool steam vent next to each other.
Introduce them and have them become friends. :-)

Dig a path for water to move from the CSV to a pond that will cool down the copper volcano's output. Once you get the resources to make a steam turbine, place it above the copper volcano to eat the steam produced when the molten copper appears.

ha i was literally gonna suggest this. i'd love to have a cool steam vent + copper volcano spawn next to eachother.