How much does Metal Refinery heat up the water?

[Shame]

Is is up to or by 40C? Or higher? I need to know the exact interval or amount so I can cool the water I use correctly. I can't find this info about it on the wiki. Can I use polluted water or germy water too?

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Ideally you would use a liquid which stays liquid above 125°C so that you can recycle the heat into power with a steam turbine. This way it doesn't burden your base cooling system and some recipes are self powered.

That is misleading if you are talking "early tech". Once you go towards a steam turbine and aquatuner you pretty much need oil and steel.

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Originally posted by Hedning:

Ideally you would use a liquid which stays liquid above 125°C so that you can recycle the heat into power with a steam turbine. This way it doesn't burden your base cooling system and some recipes are self powered.

That is misleading if you are talking "early tech". Once you go towards a steam turbine and aquatuner you pretty much need oil and steel.

For most players a metal refinery is not "early tech."

[Hedning]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Originally posted by Hedning:

Ideally you would use a liquid which stays liquid above 125°C so that you can recycle the heat into power with a steam turbine. This way it doesn't burden your base cooling system and some recipes are self powered.

That is misleading if you are talking "early tech". Once you go towards a steam turbine and aquatuner you pretty much need oil and steel.

How exactly is it misleading? Also you don't need an aquatuner. In fact, the point of having the liquid be above 125° is so that it can heat the steam directly.

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

That is misleading if you are talking "early tech". Once you go towards a steam turbine and aquatuner you pretty much need oil and steel.

For most players a metal refinery is not "early tech."

For anyone who has not yet setup a metal refinery successfully (which I suspect includes the OP) it is most definitely not early tech.

Setting up your first *successful* metal refinery is probably the biggest hurdle that new players encounter, and it is a topic that experienced players seem completely impossible to understand.

And without a metal refinery, the setup of an aquatuner/steam engine cooling system becomes the next "beginner hurdle".

[Shame]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Originally posted by Shame:

Wait, so I can use polluted water for Metal refinery too, or some other liquid like crude oil? Or if not, would just germy water work? Because that would make a huge difference; I would be refining metal and at the same time killing germs in the liquid through heating it up!

Germy water works, but it does need to be cold enough to avoid breaking the pipes and refinery. Also, it comes out hot from the refinery, and that can be a quick death if you send that hot water back into the base.

Ok, thank you. But I just wanted to know how hot it would pour out the water, so I know how much to cool it by. Obviously, having a well-insulated, safe room for the refinery would be extremely important, as well as may be even an air cooling system in the area, but I just wanted to have info on what I really need for a basic and secure setup of this.

Great thing I can use germy water though, that's killing two birds with one stone, if you will; use germy water, heat it up from the refiner and get clean water after a while due to heat killing the germs.

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Shame:

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Germy water works, but it does need to be cold enough to avoid breaking the pipes and refinery. Also, it comes out hot from the refinery, and that can be a quick death if you send that hot water back into the base.

Ok, thank you. But I just wanted to know how hot it would pour out the water, so I know how much to cool it by. Obviously, having a well-insulated, safe room for the refinery would be extremely important, as well as may be even an air cooling system in the area, but I just wanted to have info on what I really need for a basic and secure setup of this.

Great thing I can use germy water though, that's killing two birds with one stone, if you will; use germy water, heat it up from the refiner and get clean water after a while due to heat killing the germs.

As per https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Metal_Refinery

Gold adds 10,566,648 DTU
Wolframite 30,947,568 DTU
Copper 32,152,120 DTU
Aluminum 45,157,840 DTU
Thermium 51,661,220 DTU
Pyrite 53,696,808 DTU
Iron 53,696,808 DTU
Steel 93,566,480 DTU

If you are using water, it's specific heat is 4.179 DTU/g*K and the amount of coolant heated is always 400,000 g From here we can calculate how many degrees K the coolant is heated for each operation:

Gold increases water's coolant by 10,566,648 DTU / 400,000 g / 4.179 DTU*g/K = 6.32 K change
Wolframite is 18.51 K
Copper is 19.23 K
Aluminum is 27.01 K
Thermium is 30.91 K
Pyrite and iron are 32.12 K
Steel is 55.97 K

(Note 1 K change = 1 C change)

So, depending on what you are refining, you have different amounts to cool off. None of them are even 14 K changes, so likely you'd need sensors and a loop to do it.