How much does Metal Refinery heat up the water?

[Shame]

Is is up to or by 40C? Or higher? I need to know the exact interval or amount so I can cool the water I use correctly. I can't find this info about it on the wiki. Can I use polluted water or germy water too?

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

It depends on the operation. Here is a chart, but you have to divide the total heat it adds by the specific heat of your coolant times 400,000 g. 4.179 * 400,00 = 1,671,600 in the case of water.

https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Metal_Refinery

In general though, it won't heat your water up more than 56 K, so if you ensure that your water starts below 40 C, it won't break your pipes.

[Battleseed]

Do you ever look at in-game info? Select an ore to refine. Now look at the bottom line. Heat:X

[Shame]

Originally posted by Battleseed:

Do you ever look at in-game info? Select an ore to refine. Now look at the bottom line. Heat:X

That's the thing, I want to know BEFORE I place that darn thing down!

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Shame:

Originally posted by Battleseed:

Do you ever look at in-game info? Select an ore to refine. Now look at the bottom line. Heat:X

That's the thing, I want to know BEFORE I place that darn thing down!

Well, I gave you the relevant info. It varies from material to material, but for water, the most it will be increased is when it's making steel, and it increases about 56 K.

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by Shame:

Originally posted by Battleseed:

Do you ever look at in-game info? Select an ore to refine. Now look at the bottom line. Heat:X

That's the thing, I want to know BEFORE I place that darn thing down!

I don't see where Battleseed said to build anything, you click the building and look at the popup you get. Did you even try what was recommended?

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Bokonon:

Originally posted by Shame:

That's the thing, I want to know BEFORE I place that darn thing down!

I don't see where Battleseed said to build anything, you click the building and look at the popup you get. Did you even try what was recommended?

You have to build the building to click on it.

[Shame]

56K? Not sure what that means. How much is that in Celsius? +14C? +50C? Considering that water is its regular temperature and the air around the area is about 30C.

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Shame:

56K? Not sure what that means. How much is that in Celsius? +14C? +50C? Considering that water is its regular temperature and the air around the area is about 30C.

1 Kelvin changed = 1 Celcius changed. When talking about temperature change you can use them interchangably.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Shame:

56K? Not sure what that means. How much is that in Celsius? +14C? +50C?

K = Kelvin. Adding 56K is the same as adding 56C. The only difference between the scales is that Kelvin starts at absolute zero, while celcius starts where water freezes.

[GMC]

Originally posted by Shame:

I need to know the exact interval or amount so I can cool the water I use correctly.

For closed-loop cooling, use crude oil or petroleum. They have a lower specific heat capacity than water so the temperature increase is greater, which makes it easier to cool them. They also have much higher boiling points, so you can use a steam turbine to delete the heat.

In the early game (i.e. before you have steam turbines), you can just use open-loop cooling, i.e. feed it reasonably cool water or polluted water and dump the resulting hot water into a cistern. You can cool it down once you have the relevant technologies, or you can use it for something where temperature doesn't matter, e.g. running the super computer or turning it into steam.

[Kats]

I've had water pipes breaking even if the water is under 10 degrees celsius (not below 0 of course :p).
Even the room the metal refinery is in was at ~10. :p
Wish I had the save still but, of course I have since started using another liquid.

[Shame]

Originally posted by GMC:

Originally posted by Shame:

I need to know the exact interval or amount so I can cool the water I use correctly.

For closed-loop cooling, use crude oil or petroleum. They have a lower specific heat capacity than water so the temperature increase is greater, which makes it easier to cool them. They also have much higher boiling points, so you can use a steam turbine to delete the heat.

In the early game (i.e. before you have steam turbines), you can just use open-loop cooling, i.e. feed it reasonably cool water or polluted water and dump the resulting hot water into a cistern. You can cool it down once you have the relevant technologies, or you can use it for something where temperature doesn't matter, e.g. running the super computer or turning it into steam.

Wait, so I can use polluted water for Metal refinery too, or some other liquid like crude oil? Or if not, would just germy water work? Because that would make a huge difference; I would be refining metal and at the same time killing germs in the liquid through heating it up!

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by Shame:

Originally posted by GMC:

For closed-loop cooling, use crude oil or petroleum. They have a lower specific heat capacity than water so the temperature increase is greater, which makes it easier to cool them. They also have much higher boiling points, so you can use a steam turbine to delete the heat.

In the early game (i.e. before you have steam turbines), you can just use open-loop cooling, i.e. feed it reasonably cool water or polluted water and dump the resulting hot water into a cistern. You can cool it down once you have the relevant technologies, or you can use it for something where temperature doesn't matter, e.g. running the super computer or turning it into steam.

Wait, so I can use polluted water for Metal refinery too, or some other liquid like crude oil? Or if not, would just germy water work? Because that would make a huge difference; I would be refining metal and at the same time killing germs in the liquid through heating it up!

Germy water works, but it does need to be cold enough to avoid breaking the pipes and refinery. Also, it comes out hot from the refinery, and that can be a quick death if you send that hot water back into the base.

[Hedning]

Ideally you would use a liquid which stays liquid above 125°C so that you can recycle the heat into power with a steam turbine. This way it doesn't burden your base cooling system and some recipes are self powered.

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Ideally you would use a liquid which stays liquid above 125°C so that you can recycle the heat into power with a steam turbine. This way it doesn't burden your base cooling system and some recipes are self powered.

Please note: The self powered comment here only works if you don't use an aquatuner, and use radiant pipes. An aquatuner is at best ~90% efficient, meaning it can only at best with super coolant return 90% of the power it used.

Radiant pipes with a liquid above 125C will instead produce steam with no power cost, so that's where it becomes power positive.