I just found a volcano, directly over my base...

[kocur4d]

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I newer been this far into the game and I never actually dealt with volcano or a geyser for real.

I just finished sorting out oxygen and water for a near future and was looking for something to focus on.

Is this something I need to worry about? Should I dig it and analyse it?

I dont think I know or got tools to be able to do something about it right now but maybe because it is literally over my head I should prepare?

[Aranador]

leave it corked until you are ready to tackle it. Maybe surround it with insulation tiles though.

[Xilo The Odd]

volcano are powerful forces indeed. non metal ones can be some of the toughest to deal with for a new player. leave it corked, but when your ready, it'll be a good way to purify all that salt water into steam energy and Salt. just make sure you have a proper cooling loop for the steam turbine exhaust and you'll have useable water. till then, you can get a space setup for it with heavy insulation. i'd say double wall or vacuum wall insulation where possible.

[kocur4d]

OK. I will seal if off and think about it later. Hope I will figure out what to do with it.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by kocur4d:

OK. I will seal if off and think about it later. Hope I will figure out what to do with it.

well, thermal energy ultimately, or dupe sacrifices to pele. the tough part is the math to determine the size and scale of it.

[kocur4d]

I newer got to build steam turbine yet, well I newer made a steel, worked with oil or even popped the oil bio so I dont know much about how to use thermal energy. All my efforts focusing on cooling things down for now :)

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by kocur4d:

I newer got to build steam turbine yet, well I newer made a steel, worked with oil or even popped the oil bio so I dont know much about how to use thermal energy. All my efforts focusing on cooling things down for now :)

yeah heat is a tricky one to learn and master, and taming a full blown rock volcano can be rough compared to a metal volcano. i got a copper volcano on mine and its a simple single steam turbine, a sweeper and a conveyor box to empty out the cooled copper metal. rock volcano, are hotter, meaner, and require a bit more thinking and planning. the heat they output can be bad if it got to your base, but great for boiling salt water and brine and even oil into petrol. but a misstep will result in a melting disaster with where it is located xD.

i suggest if anything, make a new file, spawn in a volcano on this sandbox map and give it similar statisics to your survival file and lay out the neutronium for it to set on and everything, then experiment and make some builds with it. you can look up online how to tame one as well but i find the learning process of solving the issue to be a better approach. just make sure whatever you build is out of materials you got on hand in survival. Steel is most likely what you'll need for machines. as for an estimate on turbines... i couldnt tell ya. maybe 6 with a wheezewort between each one and at each end? maybe 2 worts for that extra cooling power. the rest is having a system in place to keep the steam turbines from getting too hot so they dont stop working, because when they do... your steam room will start heating up quickly and if THAT gets too hot, the turbines may never kick on, and if THAT happens, eventual melt down of every system in the steam room xD.

[Aranador]

'early' game in ONI is getting past all the immediate survival needs, and more or less concludes with you getting plastic, steam turbines, and steel, more or less. You overcome food, water, O2, hygiene, and heat management issues, and have a base that can mostly support your dupes with minimal effort on your part, which in turn then allows you to focus on the bigger more complex projects.

Do not forget, at any time, you can save your game, then go turn on sandbox mode, and just experiment to see 'what if'. Then load your pre-sandbox game and continue, armed with more knowledge. Or you can do the !!FUN!! way, and just try and see what happens, and then start a new game and try armed with new knowledge. There is a lot of learning and discovery in this game, and it will teach you a lot of things vaguely applicalble to the real world along the way.

[Angelo Dante]

Originally posted by Aranador:

'early' game in ONI is getting past all the immediate survival needs, and more or less concludes with you getting plastic, steam turbines, and steel, more or less. You overcome food, water, O2, hygiene, and heat management issues, and have a base that can mostly support your dupes with minimal effort on your part, which in turn then allows you to focus on the bigger more complex projects.

Do not forget, at any time, you can save your game, then go turn on sandbox mode, and just experiment to see 'what if'. Then load your pre-sandbox game and continue, armed with more knowledge. Or you can do the !!FUN!! way, and just try and see what happens, and then start a new game and try armed with new knowledge. There is a lot of learning and discovery in this game, and it will teach you a lot of things vaguely applicalble to the real world along the way.

However, never ever EVAH try to tame a real life volcano. They bite!

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by Angelo Dante:

Originally posted by Aranador:

'early' game in ONI is getting past all the immediate survival needs, and more or less concludes with you getting plastic, steam turbines, and steel, more or less. You overcome food, water, O2, hygiene, and heat management issues, and have a base that can mostly support your dupes with minimal effort on your part, which in turn then allows you to focus on the bigger more complex projects.

Do not forget, at any time, you can save your game, then go turn on sandbox mode, and just experiment to see 'what if'. Then load your pre-sandbox game and continue, armed with more knowledge. Or you can do the !!FUN!! way, and just try and see what happens, and then start a new game and try armed with new knowledge. There is a lot of learning and discovery in this game, and it will teach you a lot of things vaguely applicalble to the real world along the way.

However, never ever EVAH try to tame a real life volcano. They bite!

i mean, iceland has made good progress toward being able to do this. not quite taming a volcano but its a step in the right direction.

[Hedning]

Some of the best use of a volcano is to cook oil into petroleum. This way you don't lose 50% of the mass like you do in the oil refinery, so you can use twice as many generators for the same amount of oil wells and the process becomes water positive.

[Angelo Dante]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by Angelo Dante:

However, never ever EVAH try to tame a real life volcano. They bite!

i mean, iceland has made good progress toward being able to do this. not quite taming a volcano but its a step in the right direction.

Yeah I have to give their geothermal programs a lot of credit. I guess they have to be good at it, most of their land is volcanic. There are what, 30 volcanoes in Iceland? I dont know how they do it. I'll take a hurricane over a volcanic eruption. But 30 of them? Nah, I'm good, bruh...you can keep the island. I wish you good health and lots of fire retardant.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Angelo Dante:

Yeah I have to give their geothermal programs a lot of credit. I guess they have to be good at it, most of their land is volcanic. There are what, 30 volcanoes in Iceland? I dont know how they do it. I'll take a hurricane over a volcanic eruption. But 30 of them? Nah, I'm good, bruh...you can keep the island. I wish you good health and lots of fire retardant.

It's not that hard. The ancient Romans used hot springs for heating. Geothermal power plants use the same mechanic as natural hot water springs. Basically water is allowed to be heated, then you place a steam turbine in front of a condenser and let the steam flow, condense and finally you return the water.

Also Iceland is not dangerous. Since 1800 Iceland has had 1 fatality due to volcanic eruptions.
Hurricanes (and storms) kills 10s of people almost every year in the US

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by Angelo Dante:

Yeah I have to give their geothermal programs a lot of credit. I guess they have to be good at it, most of their land is volcanic. There are what, 30 volcanoes in Iceland? I dont know how they do it. I'll take a hurricane over a volcanic eruption. But 30 of them? Nah, I'm good, bruh...you can keep the island. I wish you good health and lots of fire retardant.

It's not that hard. The ancient Romans used hot springs for heating. Geothermal power plants use the same mechanic as natural hot water springs. Basically water is allowed to be heated, then you place a steam turbine in front of a condenser and let the steam flow, condense and finally you return the water.

Also Iceland is not dangerous. Since 1800 Iceland has had 1 fatality due to volcanic eruptions.
Hurricanes (and storms) kills 10s of people almost every year in the US

yeah magma flow is often predictable unless it is airborne and landing near residential areas. hurricane debris is impossible to predict but safe to hazard some guesses based on the forces at work and the area your in. needless to say living near a hardware store is probably not the best idea.

[Pedra]

found 4 very close to each other...gonna make one mad steam power gen out of it

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by kocur4d:

OK. I will seal if off and think about it later. Hope I will figure out what to do with it.

well, thermal energy ultimately, or dupe sacrifices to pele. the tough part is the math to determine the size and scale of it.

I've never done any math to deal with a volcano?

they're the hardest feature to deal with though, you should probably do some other hot geyser first.