Is hydrogen generator still inefficient?

[MoKuS]

I am back in the game and I realized that the game is in its final stage. I remember that the hydrogen generator was not efficient no matter what the setup is. I was wondering if the situation is the same.

[Hedning]

I don't know what that means. It is 100% efficient at burning the hydrogen. Before you have hydrogen rockets which is late game it is the most efficient use of hydrogen.

[MoKuS]

Originally posted by Hedning:

I don't know what that means. It is 100% efficient at burning the hydrogen. Before you have hydrogen rockets which is late game it is the most efficient use of hydrogen.

I mean a setup with an electrolyzer, gas pump, gas filter, and hydrogen generator is needed for hydrogen generator to work. Any setup was not efficient in the past due to the power outcome of the hydrogen generator. I was wondering if the power outcome is still the same so any setup is inefficient.

[Ma Bufang Chinese Warlord]

That set up uses 360-480 power and the hydrogen generator creates 800. Use a basic amount of automation and you'll be guchi

[Hedning]

Originally posted by MoKuS:

Originally posted by Hedning:

I don't know what that means. It is 100% efficient at burning the hydrogen. Before you have hydrogen rockets which is late game it is the most efficient use of hydrogen.

I mean a setup with an electrolyzer, gas pump, gas filter, and hydrogen generator is needed for hydrogen generator to work. Any setup was not efficient in the past due to the power outcome of the hydrogen generator. I was wondering if the power outcome is still the same so any setup is inefficient.

You would build the electrolyzer setup to generate oxygen, not power, so yes, it is still inefficient at generating power. It is still great for generating oxygen since it produces quite a lot while producing more power than it needs.

If you are looking at generating power there are many better ways of doing that.

[MoKuS]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by MoKuS:

I mean a setup with an electrolyzer, gas pump, gas filter, and hydrogen generator is needed for hydrogen generator to work. Any setup was not efficient in the past due to the power outcome of the hydrogen generator. I was wondering if the power outcome is still the same so any setup is inefficient.

You would build the electrolyzer setup to generate oxygen, not power, so yes, it is still inefficient at generating power. It is still great for generating oxygen since it produces quite a lot while producing more power than it needs.

If you are looking at generating power there are many better ways of doing that.

Do you mean the coal generator?

[Hedning]

Coal is good for early game. If you find a nat gas geyser close to your base it should also be good until its first dormancy.

Once you get petroleum petroleum gemerators are perhaps the most convenient source of power.

With space materials you can build a sour gas boiler which is the ultimate power source.

You can also build this "tepidizer generator" or "sppm" (self powered power module) if you want to exploit the game physics: https://i.imgur.com/kFHGfA6.png

[Angelo Dante]

I'll add too that if you set up a power plant room with the hydrogen generators and the power control station, they produce 50% more wattage for three cycles, then need another "tune-up" from an electrical engineer. Use that with a hydrogen vent and it's a great power source. It'll get you along nicely while you set up other power plants at other vents, magma, etc.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Coal is good for early game. If you find a nat gas geyser close to your base it should also be good until its first dormancy.

Once you get petroleum petroleum gemerators are perhaps the most convenient source of power.

With space materials you can build a sour gas boiler which is the ultimate power source.

You can also build this "tepidizer generator" or "sppm" (self powered power module) if you want to exploit the game physics: https://i.imgur.com/kFHGfA6.png

would you suggest going straight for oil even though you have a natural gas geyser but not needing power just yet?

That is where I am currently. I think I have plenty of coal to last awhile, I have a geyser located but I wonder if I should just go straight to oil

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1 Liquid Pump (240W) can support 10 Electrolyzers ( 1200 W total )
10 Electrolyzer can support 11 Hydrogen Generators ( 8800 W total )
11 Hydrogen Generator also need 3 Gas Pumps ( 720 W total )
Each Hydrogen Generators can generate about 553 W.

Or you only need a Gas Pump if you are getting free hydrogen from geyser. So each generator can generate 625W.

[Aranador]

you will also need some way of removing the oxygen pressure to stop the elecrolyzers from over-pressure. Space is good for this :)

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Tux:

would you suggest going straight for oil even though you have a natural gas geyser but not needing power just yet?

Yes, if you have access to oil already. It is well worth just using petroleum mid-game rather than anything else, perhaps with the exception of coal if you still have a large coal supply (like if your main food source is hatches). It is so quick and easy to set up and more importantly: scale up when you need it. Nat gas and coal will struggle with getting enough fuel soon, but petroleum can just be expanded as you need it.

If you have "irregular oil" or don't mind piping the petroleum through the entire map try building them near space exposure for free co2 removal.

[Strygald]

Also, oil wells produce natural gas as well as crude oil. If you're using oil refineries, they too produce natural gas.

As has been said, producing hydrogen is an inefficient way to generate power.. i would only bother with that if I have a huge amount of excess water being added from vents/geysers.

- producing hydrogen destroys the water

- producing crude oil either returns most of the water or generates even more excess water, depending on whether you use oil refineries, oil boilers or sour gas boilers.

[Tux]

cool thanks guys.

I was already going down because I found some weezworts below and on the way ran into a natural gas vent. I think I will keep digging down then

[Xilo The Odd]

yeah the nat gas vent could be a decent sub power generator as the process doesnt make any other byproduct than P water, which if you wanted you could filter some of it through a fertalizer maker to make even more nat gas. then the fertalizer can be used for various crops. granted if you have a proper farm setup you could go without fertalizer but, if you wanted a smaller farm setup then fertalizer production would be a big deal towards that goal.

in either case, free water! because you could always use more water! filter it and run it through an electrolizer for hydrogen for MOAR POWAH!

[Penguol05]

What do you mean? Hydrogen is the best power source, 800 W with no waste, low heat and something that you always have tons? Count me in for that