So... You need algae to live and do most things... but you can only get a tiny amount, and only if you are lucky?

[Eoin Lynne]

So I need algae to make oxygen (and it seems for a few other things too), but I have to get lucky and MAYBE find some random slime SOMEWHERE in the world, then convert that into algae? How are you supposed to be able to play when the main thing you need is so rare?! I am so confused!

[TasteDasRainbow]

Algae is the early game resource for easy oxygen, intended to subsist your base until you establish more consistent and industrial oxygen production, namely electrolyzers. Water is your primary source of oxygen.

[Eoin Lynne]

Escrito originalmente por TasteDasRainbow:

Algae is the early game resource for easy oxygen, intended to subsist your base until you establish more consistent and industrial oxygen production, namely electrolyzers. Water is your primary source of oxygen.

Really? Early game? I can't really do anything because there is NO ALGAE! What am I supposed to do? I can't expand any because there is no oxygen!

[Dracuras]

If you have water set up an electrolyzer asap if there's no algae left, to heck with making a spom or other control chamber for the gas and heat emissions, just keep it away from any plants you're growing so it doesn't heat them to death. Once you have O2 production you can worry about fixing it proper.

[SquarelyCircle]

I'll just note here that I've killed more dupes and bases than a person's conscience should allow. When I realize that I'm going down that road, I just restart and try to do better next time.

The problem is not that there's not enough algea, but that you've used up all the algea before you were ready to move to another method of O2 generation.

[Eoin Lynne]

Escrito originalmente por Dracuras:

If you have water set up an electrolyzer asap if there's no algae left, to heck with making a spom or other control chamber for the gas and heat emissions, just keep it away from any plants you're growing so it doesn't heat them to death. Once you have O2 production you can worry about fixing it proper.

Well I made that.. but now there is so much Carbon Dioxide and Hydrogen that the oxygen is useless, what am I supposed to do with these gasses? I tried pumping them into another chamber but it tells me the vent is overloaded so that doesn't work.

[Dracuras]

can suck up the hydrogen and put it into a tank or two as buffer, or send it somewhere else. personally I use 2-4 tanks as a buffer and then hydrogen gets sent to a generator controlled by a smart battery to supplement the base's power network. CO2 you can either dig a pit for the CO2 to sink into or set up a carbon skimmer/water sieve loop, sieves can support 4-5 skimmers at a time if needed.

[Dracuras]

be mindful if using the hydrogen generator, if any gases other than hydrogen get pumped into it it'll take damage.

[theTrav]

Say no to new doops until you've got your gasses under control. I sit on 4 for a long time, go up to 8 around the time I've got a perpetual water setup, then to 16 once I've got plumbed toilets and germ cleaning sorted

[Xilo The Odd]

Escrito originalmente por theTrav:

Say no to new doops until you've got your gasses under control. I sit on 4 for a long time, go up to 8 around the time I've got a perpetual water setup, then to 16 once I've got plumbed toilets and germ cleaning sorted

heck i hardly ever pass 12 early to mid game. and by that point i've got atleast 1 electrolizer and a hydrogen gen to power the pumps as needed. by 16 i've got a solid plan to utilize oil for its various things.

[gimmethegepgun]

Escrito originalmente por SquarelyCircle:

The problem is not that there's not enough algea, but that you've used up all the algea before you were ready to move to another method of O2 generation.

The asteroids with Forest Biome start won't have algae available immediately. However, they have Oxyferns that you can use to turn CO2 into O2.

[believor in Prawn]

Escrito originalmente por Eoin Lynne:

Escrito originalmente por Dracuras:

If you have water set up an electrolyzer asap if there's no algae left, to heck with making a spom or other control chamber for the gas and heat emissions, just keep it away from any plants you're growing so it doesn't heat them to death. Once you have O2 production you can worry about fixing it proper.

Well I made that.. but now there is so much Carbon Dioxide and Hydrogen that the oxygen is useless, what am I supposed to do with these gasses? I tried pumping them into another chamber but it tells me the vent is overloaded so that doesn't work.

you can burn hydrogen and use a carbon skimmer on CO2

[Hedning]

Escrito originalmente por gimmethegepgun:

Escrito originalmente por SquarelyCircle:

The problem is not that there's not enough algea, but that you've used up all the algea before you were ready to move to another method of O2 generation.

The asteroids with Forest Biome start won't have algae available immediately. However, they have Oxyferns that you can use to turn CO2 into O2.

This. Different asteroids play differently. There is algae here too, but don't expect you standard build to work.

[Gamefever]

Some of the defualt starter maps have loads of algae. You can also get it too stretch for 400-500 cycles easy using the Algae Terrarium over the electric oxygen diffuser.
For around 12 to 16 Dupes mind you.

I ussually set up around 8 to 12 Terrariums and never worry about O2 again really.
From there Im just building ranches and more ranches. Come to think of it the first thing I start working on is a double ranch for about 16 hatches, below that I put my carbon pit/ Terrarium farm.

Then I start on Puft Ranches which need a lot of Po2 bottles and the easy way to get those is more Terrariums. Dont need the Terrariums forever in a Puft Ranch just the Po2 bottles, however eventually if I leave them in O2 I get Dense Pufts, which isnt so bad.

[Angpaur]

Escrito originalmente por Gamefever:

Then I start on Puft Ranches which need a lot of Po2 bottles and the easy way to get those is more Terrariums. Dont need the Terrariums forever in a Puft Ranch just the Po2 bottles, however eventually if I leave them in O2 I get Dense Pufts, which isnt so bad.

Problem with puft ranching is that you get a bit less O2 by doing that than using deodorizers only, to clean pO2 directly into O2.

Comparing to using the deodorizers, producing O2 by puft ranching requires dupes time spent on the ranching and power to run algae distillers. I don't include dupes time needed to make deliveries to the distillers or deodorizers, as this can be fully automated. So in the end not only you get sligthly less O2, but also spend more power and dupes time. This is badly balanced because ranching should provide better benefits.

[gimmethegepgun]

Escrito originalmente por Angpaur:

Escrito originalmente por Gamefever:

Then I start on Puft Ranches which need a lot of Po2 bottles and the easy way to get those is more Terrariums. Dont need the Terrariums forever in a Puft Ranch just the Po2 bottles, however eventually if I leave them in O2 I get Dense Pufts, which isnt so bad.

Problem with puft ranching is that you get a bit less O2 by doing that than using deodorizers only, to clean pO2 directly into O2.

Comparing to using the deodorizers, producing O2 by puft ranching requires dupes time spent on the ranching and power to run algae distillers. I don't include dupes time needed to make deliveries to the distillers or deodorizers, as this can be fully automated. So in the end not only you get sligthly less O2, but also spend more power and dupes time. This is badly balanced because ranching should provide better benefits.

Or just don't even use deodorizers. Other than slimelung, food decay, and dense pufts for oxylite there's no practical difference between O2 and pO2.