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Gamefever Dec 4, 2019 @ 7:36pm
Early Base cooling system
Alright so here is a base cooler without a Steam Turbine.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1928733911

So I had access to a Hydrogen Vent/Geyser,
So off picture there is a dozen thats 12 Storage Tanks for Hydrogen Gas. Even with that much storage its not enough to power this plus much else, This is just for getting the temperature down into acceptable range for living and farming with water.

The rooms are filled with Hydrogen Gas, there is a massive pipeline carrying the hydrogen from storage up to the cooling rooms. Off camera is a massive pipeline that returns gas that cant be used up in the single Hydrogen Geni back to storage. One of the Storage tanks sends the gas via pipe throughout a Slime Biome for passive cooling of the gas before dumping it back into the tanks.
The incoming Hydrogen gas gets pushed through a gas tuner to rapidly cool it even more before it cycles through the Aquatuner Room for cooling the temps. The automation of the room is set up so that the flow of Hydrogen is continous even if the Gas Tuner needs to shut down for overheating purposes, for one the system runs off Hydrogen power and two the Hydrogen can cool the rooms without the Gas Tuner running.
In the event that the Gas Tuner is overheated the rooms gas pump activates evacuating the gas from the room and dumping it into the gas loop...Fresh Hydrogen gas then enters the room from the incoming gas line which is about 30-40C, significant loss of room temp is experienced at this time. The temp shift plates in the middle are made from Iron and the rest are from clay material, it actually helps the temps and since clay isnt used before ceramics its a decent application of the matts.
As a result the gas tuner stays in near constant operation throughout the cycle.

The Aquatuner room is very simple. Unfortunately I realized I could have gone a lot more ham on this room given what I figured out with the gas tuner.
There is a single row of Iron Temp Shift plates behind the tuner and a temp gauge. A line of radiant gas pipes zig zags its interior before feeding a Hydrogen Geni and the remainder then goes back to storage.

The water used for cooling is polluted water from a slime biome. The whole perimeter of the base pipes this PW. The entire loop is full of water, there are 4 storage tanks that help the cooling process by forcing all of the stored water to reach an average temperature so that all the water packets are consistent. Off camera there is a water retention pool with a pump sending more water into the lines. There is also a liquid vent pooring excess water back into the retention pool, even then I still need more ways to remove water from the loop cause too much slows water movement in the line for some reason.

Off camera, there are Dupes installing clay temp shift plates around the whole perimeter of the base, which actually helps exchange the heat into the liquid from the base itself.
The pipes for the cooling loop are actually normal pipes made from sedamentary rock due to its thremal reactive nature, afterall I want the pipes water to pick up the heat from the trip around the base.

Eventually I want to install a Hydrogen exchange for the Aquatuner room just like the room on the right but I got that idea after the whole thing was in operation...Had other projects like Im still assembling a proper Power Room with heavi watt wire traveling up the spine or back bone of the base to then feed all the machines with power junction boxes....This will also help me move/get rid of all the random power generators and hamster wheels I've been using through the early/mid game.

This is about the furthest Ive gotten in the game too BTW.
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Angpaur Dec 4, 2019 @ 11:29pm 
I wonder why you decided to use thermo regulator if basically, if I understood correctly, your cooling is based on dumping heat into a slime biome.
Hedning Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:02am 
ctrl+f "thermo" -> no hit
ctrl+f "regu" -> no hit
So what's the regulator for and what's cooling it?
Angpaur Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:11am 
Hedning, ctrl+f for "gas tuner" ;-)
It's strange sometimes people fail to use correct building names. It doesn't help to be on same page in a discussion.
Hedning Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:21am 
Oh, the regulator stood out in the picture, then I saw a long text and thought I'd save some time using the search function.

After reading it I still don't understand what is cooling the regulator and why can't that be used to just cool the h2 directly?
Last edited by Hedning; Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:24am
Angpaur Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:25am 
Seems like the regulator is used to cool down aquatuner, which is a really terrible idea.
Hedning Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:33am 
It seems a bit redundant yes, but if the regulator is as insulated as it looks it shouldn't run and thus not waste power.

Although perhaps the purpose is like a safety release valve: If the tuner gets too hot it wastes some power instead of continuing to increase. Like sometimes irl you don't stop the pump, you just wastes it's work instead.
Last edited by Hedning; Dec 5, 2019 @ 2:37am
Gamefever Dec 5, 2019 @ 6:14am 
Alright so, basically I went overboard.

So the Regulator cools the coolant hydrogen that cools the Aquatuner.

Aquatuner sends polluted water for base cooling.
The base did cool down dramatically its sitting at 21C when I left it last night from 34C.

I was going ham on it...Tried to flush gas from the room with the Pump, then it gets replaced via a gas vent...Was already figuring out how to time it and control which devices activated when I realized it was not needed at the time. Literally had automation nodes set up and a dump room for the hot gas....Then I nixed the whole thing, stripped it back to basics.

Anyway...

The whole system does provide significant cooling...The Hydrogen Generator sort of deletes the heat by using the Hydrogen that has gotten hot from the Aquatuner room....Thing is it doesnt get enough Hydrogen so the remainder of the Hot Hydrogen gets passed out of the base into a passive radiant loop, which cools down the Hydrogen before it returns.

Wasnt worried about losing time or energy on the ThermoRegulator, since the system is not my power system.
Angpaur Dec 5, 2019 @ 7:05am 
What is Hydrogen temperature when you send it to generators?
AquaX Dec 5, 2019 @ 7:29am 
I think your better of sticking a steam turbine on top of the aqua tuner if it’s being used nonstop.
Angpaur Dec 5, 2019 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by AquaX:
I think your better of sticking a steam turbine on top of the aqua tuner if it’s being used nonstop.
Yeah, but can you do it early game? This topic literaly says early base cooling system.
Gamefever Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by AquaX:
I think your better of sticking a steam turbine on top of the aqua tuner if it’s being used nonstop.

Great, I havent gotten to the oil at the bottom of the map, and its my most advanced game so bear that in mind.
Gamefever Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by Angpaur:
Originally posted by AquaX:
I think your better of sticking a steam turbine on top of the aqua tuner if it’s being used nonstop.
Yeah, but can you do it early game? This topic literaly says early base cooling system.

Its early cause I dont have plastic...Not sure why its taking me forever to get to the bottom.
Hedning Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Gamefever:
Alright so, basically I went overboard.

So the Regulator cools the coolant hydrogen that cools the Aquatuner.
That does not make any sense. You don't put a fridge in another fridge.

Also what is cooling the thermo regulator and why can't you use that to cool the aquatuner directly.

Do you see the problem here? You're moving heat from your base into the tuner, then into the regulator and then into x. Why not move it directly from the tuner to x?
Gamefever Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Angpaur:
Originally posted by AquaX:
I think your better of sticking a steam turbine on top of the aqua tuner if it’s being used nonstop.
Yeah, but can you do it early game? This topic literaly says early base cooling system.

Depends on what you consider to be early game.
If you mean pretech, than all you can do is nothing.
IF you allow for tech than the earliest you can cool off the base is when you have either a Liquid or Gas pump.
Then all you do is move liquid or gas from one area to another...Allowing for passive cooling simply because of the length of the pipe used and run the pipe through area's that are cooler than your target zone. Essentially equalizing the temperatures of the two zones.
Angpaur Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Hedning:
Do you see the problem here? You're moving heat from your base into the tuner, then into the regulator and then into x. Why not move it directly from the tuner to x?
Exactly this.
Regulator is just unnecessary step. You could build something like this if you want it simple and to be available in early game:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1928849204
Don't mind autospweeper. It is there just to make testing easier. The small tank that aquatuner is cooling simulates your base that needes to be cooled down.

It works by heating up fairly cold pwater, you can find in slime biomes,.to 99C and then electrolyzing it to delete 3/4 heat from water This should last for at least 75 cycles so it can give you plenty time to get plastics and build turbine setup. You can also just use infinite water loop to move heat to that large body of water.
Another improvement that relates to your use of Hydrogen could be to run it in radiant pipes to provide some additional cooling. But since you said you get Hydrogen from a vent then you first need to cool it down and heating it up again doesn't make much sense.
Last edited by Angpaur; Dec 5, 2019 @ 8:27am
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