Oxygen Not Included

Oxygen Not Included

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c-***** Nov 12, 2018 @ 9:08am
Canister Filler does what?
I guess I don't understand Canister Fillers: it says "Automatically **stores** piped Gases into canisters for manual transport." (emphasis mine) so I expected when I piped gas into it, it would start generating canisters I could use to store gases.

Where are the canisters?

I even clicked "Empty <it>" and no dupe ever emptied it.

Does it require a destination Canister Emptier? If so, why doesn't anything say that?

My minimum suggestion is that they change the English description to something like "Gathers 20Kg of gases which can then be transported to an Emptier."
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Ellip Nov 12, 2018 @ 9:32am 
Canister filler is like the pitcher pump except you pump gas into it through a pipe. It outputs gas canisters which you can empty out in canister emptier just like a bottle emptier except the gas will fill the room instead of flowing somewhere like water does.

If you have canisters you want to empty in a canister emptier, get a dupe to sweep it with a higher priority and have the emptier check with the gas you want to empty and they should do it.
Keramane Nov 12, 2018 @ 11:00am 
This sounds less efficient than just running a pipe. Why would you do this? Supplying long distances with small amounts?
Ellip Nov 12, 2018 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Keramane:
This sounds less efficient than just running a pipe. Why would you do this? Supplying long distances with small amounts?

Pretty much. Sometimes you need to fill a small room with a certain gas that is far away(like a distant chlorine room) and making a long and large pipe network just to pipe chlorine over one time is a lot of unnecessary work so you would use a canister filler instead.

This is also great for the early game when you want to avoid using too much power. A canister filler that's connected to your main base gas network is easier then trying to pump multiple gas at once to different places.
c-***** Nov 12, 2018 @ 11:33am 
Ellip: I'm feeling pretty dense about this (ha!)

My Fillers just sat there and worked up to 10Kg of the gas. And then just sat there. And sat there. Like I said, I clicked the "Empty..." button, but a dupe NEVER did anything to it. I never saw any canisters regardless of how I tried setting priority - but "Empty" never did pop up a 1-9 priority scale itself, either.

Considering other items in the game, I wondered if "Empty" on a Filler just meant spewing the gases everywhere.

It was a problem because after it filled up, the filter kept wanting to push gas to it but the Filler and vent were full! I had to change the filter to 'gold' so it'd keep blowing...
Ellip Nov 12, 2018 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by c-*****:
Ellip: I'm feeling pretty dense about this (ha!)

My Fillers just sat there and worked up to 10Kg of the gas. And then just sat there. And sat there. Like I said, I clicked the "Empty..." button, but a dupe NEVER did anything to it. I never saw any canisters regardless of how I tried setting priority - but "Empty" never did pop up a 1-9 priority scale itself, either.

Considering other items in the game, I wondered if "Empty" on a Filler just meant spewing the gases everywhere.

It was a problem because after it filled up, the filter kept wanting to push gas to it but the Filler and vent were full! I had to change the filter to 'gold' so it'd keep blowing...

If you click empty on the bottle itself a dupe will go and literally empty it out into the room it's in. Obviously you don't want this as you want to move it somewhere else so just set the priority on the gas emptier to a higher priority and a dupe will take any gas, that you set to be empty, and empty it there.

Also the game has set so that any new instance of the same object on the ground now stack which means that 10kg of gas on the floor will increase as the gas bottler keeps working until you move and empty it somewhere. So don't be surprise you set a bottle to be empty and come back to see it still there and your empty designation gone, as a dupe might have already empty it and another bottle came out from the gas bottler.
Last edited by Ellip; Nov 12, 2018 @ 11:39am
sank Sep 15, 2019 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Ellip:
Originally posted by c-*****:
Ellip: I'm feeling pretty dense about this (ha!)

My Fillers just sat there and worked up to 10Kg of the gas. And then just sat there. And sat there. Like I said, I clicked the "Empty..." button, but a dupe NEVER did anything to it. I never saw any canisters regardless of how I tried setting priority - but "Empty" never did pop up a 1-9 priority scale itself, either.

Considering other items in the game, I wondered if "Empty" on a Filler just meant spewing the gases everywhere.

It was a problem because after it filled up, the filter kept wanting to push gas to it but the Filler and vent were full! I had to change the filter to 'gold' so it'd keep blowing...

If you click empty on the bottle itself a dupe will go and literally empty it out into the room it's in. Obviously you don't want this as you want to move it somewhere else so just set the priority on the gas emptier to a higher priority and a dupe will take any gas, that you set to be empty, and empty it there.

Also the game has set so that any new instance of the same object on the ground now stack which means that 10kg of gas on the floor will increase as the gas bottler keeps working until you move and empty it somewhere. So don't be surprise you set a bottle to be empty and come back to see it still there and your empty designation gone, as a dupe might have already empty it and another bottle came out from the gas bottler.

The problem though, i click empty, the button turn into "cancel empty", after dozens of minutes, it still "cancel empty" thats mean it never once actually being empty.

most machine when we make a command, like deconstruct, it willl let us set priority, this 1 for some reason dont, so the whole piping system stop, just because no dup go do that work.
Moriibund Sep 15, 2019 @ 12:30pm 
Last time I used the canister filler (for filling drecko ranch with hydrogen) it filled a canister, then spit the canister onto the floor... Before I ever had the emptier built. I had to disconnect the gas pipe so it didn't keep filling canisters.
Hedning Sep 15, 2019 @ 12:48pm 
Emptying storage is prio 5 unless otherwise set on the building. This is a problem if you priority creep and have everything else on prio 9. You can make sure some dupes will always be available for emptying tasks by using job priority settings. One arrow increases priority by 10, which notably is more than the max you can set on specific errands (excluding emergency).
僕の名前 (仮) Sep 21, 2019 @ 12:44am 
I use them in drecko farms, to remove excess oxygen or other gases, it's easier to have good balance of oxygen on bottom of room and hydrogen on top.

Yeah you need canister emptier.

It's energy-wise and circuit load cheaper way than using gas filter, but need dupes time, and less stuff to build.
Last edited by 僕の名前 (仮); Sep 21, 2019 @ 12:47am
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