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Eldon Feb 28, 2020 @ 2:52pm
Density? state changes?
Does the density of a liquid matter if i am trying to transport it through pipes and it changes state?

i saw somewhere if it is under 1kg in pipes it wont break, but is that just because nothing is dense enough to change at less than 1kg?
ie if im using a less dense liquid, can i go more kg in pipes w/o worrying?
Originally posted by Bokonon:
No, it has nothing to do with density, it's just the 1kg limit regardless, AFAIK anyway.
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Bokonon Feb 28, 2020 @ 3:00pm 
No, it has nothing to do with density, it's just the 1kg limit regardless, AFAIK anyway.
Hedning Feb 28, 2020 @ 3:00pm 
That does not make any sense. If something was less dense you should be able to fit less of it, not more.

But no. The 1/10th rule is the same for every material, and gases as well as liquids. Ie a 1/10 full gas pipe will not condense its content.
Eldon Feb 28, 2020 @ 3:08pm 
Thats... thats not how density works...

But ty.
1 kg packets it is.
believor in Prawn Feb 28, 2020 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Hedning:
That does not make any sense. If something was less dense you should be able to fit less of it, not more.
thats not how it works
Hedning Feb 28, 2020 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Eldon:
Thats... thats not how density works...
Originally posted by believer in prawn:
thats not how it works
Something with density 1kg/m3 is less dense than something with 2kg/m3. If I have 1m3 of pipe I can fit 1kg of the less dense material, and 2kg of the more dense material. 1<2. How do you think it works?
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Xilo The Odd Feb 28, 2020 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Hedning:
Originally posted by Eldon:
Thats... thats not how density works...
Originally posted by believer in prawn:
thats not how it works
Something with density 1kg/m3 is less dense than something with 2kg/m3. If I have 1m3 of pipe I can fit 1kg of the less dense material, and 2kg of the more dense material. 1<2. How do you think it works?
based on this... say i was piping both liquid gold and liquid copper. you saying even though the limit is 10kg packets, i'd be moving more gold than copper?
Bokonon Feb 28, 2020 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:
Originally posted by Hedning:

Something with density 1kg/m3 is less dense than something with 2kg/m3. If I have 1m3 of pipe I can fit 1kg of the less dense material, and 2kg of the more dense material. 1<2. How do you think it works?
based on this... say i was piping both liquid gold and liquid copper. you saying even though the limit is 10kg packets, i'd be moving more gold than copper?
Same weight, more volume.
Hedning Feb 28, 2020 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:
Originally posted by Hedning:

Something with density 1kg/m3 is less dense than something with 2kg/m3. If I have 1m3 of pipe I can fit 1kg of the less dense material, and 2kg of the more dense material. 1<2. How do you think it works?
based on this... say i was piping both liquid gold and liquid copper. you saying even though the limit is 10kg packets, i'd be moving more gold than copper?
I didn't ask you. And I am none the wiser what they thought by your example of in-game physics where density (and viscosity) doesn't really exist. Like all pipes carry the same mass at the same rate. What does "more" even mean then? When they said "that's not how density works" I assume they were referring to irl, and irl if I had 1kg of liquid h2 in one pipe and 1kg of liquid o2 in an identical pipe I would be a lot more worried that my h2 pipe will explode when the liquid boils.
believor in Prawn Feb 28, 2020 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Hedning:
Originally posted by Eldon:
Thats... thats not how density works...
Originally posted by believer in prawn:
thats not how it works
Something with density 1kg/m3 is less dense than something with 2kg/m3. If I have 1m3 of pipe I can fit 1kg of the less dense material, and 2kg of the more dense material. 1<2. How do you think it works?
oh this was due to a failure in communication on our ends, "more of it" has nothing defining wether more= volume or more= mass
Bokonon Feb 28, 2020 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by believer in prawn:
Originally posted by Hedning:

Something with density 1kg/m3 is less dense than something with 2kg/m3. If I have 1m3 of pipe I can fit 1kg of the less dense material, and 2kg of the more dense material. 1<2. How do you think it works?
oh this was due to a failure in communication on our ends, "more of it" has nothing defining wether more= volume or more= mass
But when you can come to a different conclusion based on interpretation you are responsible to say which you're talking about.

If you have a jar full of gold and a same exact size jar of silver, which do you have "more" of? without providing context you can't say, but in science, mass is usually the basis for "more" or "less" unless what you're comparing have the same density.
Hedning Feb 28, 2020 @ 5:44pm 
There is no ambiguity of what "more" refers to, since he said "more kg".

Remember, the question was "if im using a less dense liquid, can i go more kg in pipes"
believor in Prawn Feb 28, 2020 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by Hedning:
There is no ambiguity of what "more" refers to, since he said "more kg".

Remember, the question was "if im using a less dense liquid, can i go more kg in pipes"
i was talking about you. not him
Last edited by believor in Prawn; Feb 28, 2020 @ 6:10pm
Eldon Feb 28, 2020 @ 10:48pm 
ok.
i was talking about a 1/10th full pipes.
meaning everything is 1/10th normal density.
if oil will not boil in a pipe when its 1/10 density. (which is 50g/mol) [so now 5g/mol]
will something like like water, (18g/mol) be able to not boil at 1/5 density in pipes ie 3.6g/mol
still less dense than oil, with more volume in the pipes.(5kg instead of 1kg)
gimmethegepgun Feb 28, 2020 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by Eldon:
ok.
i was talking about a 1/10th full pipes.
meaning everything is 1/10th normal density.
if oil will not boil in a pipe when its 1/10 density. (which is 50g/mol) [so now 5g/mol]
will something like like water, (18g/mol) be able to not boil at 1/5 density in pipes ie 3.6g/mol
still less dense than oil, with more volume in the pipes.(5kg instead of 1kg)
No it's 1/10th full pipe regardless of which gas or liquid it is.
Eldon Feb 28, 2020 @ 11:00pm 
Yeah i got my answer way back at the top.
Was just clarifying what my question was since everyone seemed to forget that we were talking about adjusting volume inside the pipe to a density equilibrium and what their weight variance would be.
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