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Seleck Sep 11, 2018 @ 10:58pm
What to do with excess hydrogen?
Is there a ''smart'' way to store excess hydrogen?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510079725
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ExavierMacbeth Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:05pm 
Since the new update added the Gas/Liquid Tanks, I have usually been stockpiling 1-2 tanks worth of it in case a new project (or a new cooling chamber) needs to be quickly filled. Otherwise I think most people just dump the overflow to the Hydrogen Generator for a tiny bit of extra electricity periotically.
Seleck Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by ExavierMacbeth:
Since the new update added the Gas/Liquid Tanks, I have usually been stockpiling 1-2 tanks worth of it in case a new project (or a new cooling chamber) needs to be quickly filled. Otherwise I think most people just dump the overflow to the Hydrogen Generator for a tiny bit of extra electricity periotically.
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Seleck Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by Seleck:
Originally posted by ExavierMacbeth:
Since the new update added the Gas/Liquid Tanks, I have usually been stockpiling 1-2 tanks worth of it in case a new project (or a new cooling chamber) needs to be quickly filled. Otherwise I think most people just dump the overflow to the Hydrogen Generator for a tiny bit of extra electricity periotically.
ty, im researching the gas canisters thing, I have never used them before
Seleck Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by ExavierMacbeth:
Since the new update added the Gas/Liquid Tanks, I have usually been stockpiling 1-2 tanks worth of it in case a new project (or a new cooling chamber) needs to be quickly filled. Otherwise I think most people just dump the overflow to the Hydrogen Generator for a tiny bit of extra electricity periotically.
would you happen to know what to do with the gas canisters?
Trigger Zero Sep 12, 2018 @ 1:16am 
If you use a bridge as priority and the underneath pipe as secondary you can do something like this to make it so that *IF* the line to the generator is full, it will put excess into the storage container. *IF* the hydrogen line is empty *AND* the fuel going into the generator drops below the 2nd bridge, it will pull hydrogen from the storage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510123077

It's late so I may or may not have swapped the logic on the 2nd one.. Pretty sure that's right. But If it's backwards just change priority of bridge and underneath pipe.
Last edited by Trigger Zero; Sep 12, 2018 @ 1:18am
Seleck Sep 12, 2018 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by nemisis311:
If you use a bridge as priority and the underneath pipe as secondary you can do something like this to make it so that *IF* the line to the generator is full, it will put excess into the storage container. *IF* the hydrogen line is empty *AND* the fuel going into the generator drops below the 2nd bridge, it will pull hydrogen from the storage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510123077

It's late so I may or may not have swapped the logic on the 2nd one.. Pretty sure that's right. But If it's backwards just change priority of bridge and underneath pipe.
yeah that's what i ended up doing, I don't know how to use the canisters to storage gas but the reservoir is exactly what i was looking for as they storage quite a lot of gas
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510156895
MrButtermancer Sep 12, 2018 @ 6:48am 
I like a small processing cell for each gas. For hydrogen, that doubles as the hydrogen generator room. You use a high-pressure gas vent to store it in there, with a pump output to any rooms that need hydrogen (such as coolant systems). Then, automated at just under 20 kg/m (the max pressure) there's a pump which feeds the hydrogen generators which are themselves conditional to overhead on my battery stack.

The great part of this system is you can feel all of your hydrogen to it from anywhere. If you discover a hydrogen vent, you just feed it into the processor. If you need hydrogen, you just pull it from the processor.
MaebeKnot Sep 12, 2018 @ 2:49pm 
Check out this build that provides a low power way to separate the Hydrogen from the O2 from the Electrolysis you will likely need.

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87548-self-powering-oxygen-module-mkii-production-and-cooling/?page=1
A Terrible Modder Sep 12, 2018 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by Seleck:
Is there a ''smart'' way to store excess hydrogen?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510079725
well you can convert it into energy and store it in batteries
Bellringer Sep 12, 2018 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by BOOMH34D$HOT 76:
well you can convert it into energy and store it in batteries

Batteries do loose some charge per cycle so in terms of pure efficiency it's better to store the gas, either in a room or the new tanks, and only have a single battery. If you produce a lot more gas than you need then go ahead and run the gen whenever just to destroy the extra gas.
Trigger Zero Sep 12, 2018 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by BOOMH34D$HOT 76:
Originally posted by Seleck:
Is there a ''smart'' way to store excess hydrogen?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510079725
well you can convert it into energy and store it in batteries
Don't do this. It basically just = a pure resource loss. Pretty sure it's 10% power loss PER battery per cycle.
Doc Savage Sep 13, 2018 @ 6:30am 
Check that against Battery loss behind a transformer on a circuit. I don't lose near that much behind a transformer gate. You likely lose something in the exchange, but I don't think it's 10% IIRC. And then there's any actual work you do with those batteries that could easily make back any "losses" if they just sit there and do nothing.

Could also put that hydrogen to work in a drecko farm for cheap plastic instead of just storing it away.

I don't like just storing things, they just sit. (Ng from a geyser and clean water being the exceptions) Make that stuff do some work, it's not like you aren't making more of it.

Just thoughts...

Cheers..!
Ghost Engineer Sep 13, 2018 @ 7:08am 
If you need to store something you're producing - then you're producing too much of it. Storing will only delay your problem instead of fixing it. Once your tanks are full - it will become a problem again.
Since the only 2 things that use hydrogen are generators and the AETN, you gotta start using those more. The AETN takes very little hydrogen and it takes a while to set up anything using it. Simple solution is to build more stuff that uses power and get a 2nd generator.
Trigger Zero Sep 13, 2018 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Doc Savage:
Check that against Battery loss behind a transformer on a circuit. I don't lose near that much behind a transformer gate. You likely lose something in the exchange, but I don't think it's 10% IIRC. And then there's any actual work you do with those batteries that could easily make back any "losses" if they just sit there and do nothing.

Could also put that hydrogen to work in a drecko farm for cheap plastic instead of just storing it away.

I don't like just storing things, they just sit. (Ng from a geyser and clean water being the exceptions) Make that stuff do some work, it's not like you aren't making more of it.

Just thoughts...

Cheers..!
You still loose power produced not used if the Gen is running 100% of the time. It's no different than wasting with loading up batteries.
Seleck Sep 13, 2018 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Pirate:
If you need to store something you're producing - then you're producing too much of it. Storing will only delay your problem instead of fixing it. Once your tanks are full - it will become a problem again.
Since the only 2 things that use hydrogen are generators and the AETN, you gotta start using those more. The AETN takes very little hydrogen and it takes a while to set up anything using it. Simple solution is to build more stuff that uses power and get a 2nd generator.
Basically what Im doing it's storing the hydrogen and when the tanks are full I connect a hydrogen generator to the rest of the base and use all the fuel

I tried running the base for a while unattended and that was the death of my base, when the tanks were full, oxygen generation stopped and my dubs died
Last edited by Seleck; Sep 13, 2018 @ 11:27am
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