Is "deleting heat" an exploit?

[jimmyd95]

I see a lot of vids about how this or that mechanic deletes heat from the game. These seem like exploits to me, and I don't really like using exploits. Using pipes to dissipate heat, that's fine. Running heat through a machine that where a percentage of it just gets removed from the environment for mystical reasons? Seems like an exploit or bug. Am I just making my life more difficult by steering away from these means?

[mikek]

pumping 500c hydrogen into a generator to be burned of for me is an exploit.

heating up the hydrogen to send it into a steamroom into the turbine for electricity feels ok.

heating things up and send it into space is fine aswell

[Gamefever]

Digging up the whole map and not having the structures actually standing and supported by columns is a much larger stretch for my mind than some of the Heat Deletion in this game.

The worst offender the Sieve has been removed although if you really want to be upset about it...

You can feed hot stuff to critters and Dupes and get cool by products from the digestion process if we really want to be made about heat deletion.

For instance....Water converts to mush bars, those bars can be 100C and then eaten by Dupes to come out as nice cool 30C polluted water.

IF you really had to....You could move debris through a hot area, soaking the heat via conveyor rail and then feed that stuff to Hatches which then convert it too coal to be burned....Deleted.

Seems like this would never end, at some point your going to have to call it done and ready for play.

[AquaX]

There are lots of heat exploits if you want to nitpick. I would say don’t worry about it and use it to your advantage if you are able to create an efficient system to do it.

[Gamefever]

Ethanol has different capacities in liquid and gas forms...

So cooling can be achieved a number of crazy ways.
Thing is if you look up stuff you will also learn about stuff that may seem like exploits but its tough to know for sure since some things your going to have to do in the late game involve cooling gasses into liquids.

Since the state changes have to be 2C above the change state for the game to change it over well its actually not quite realistic...And that shift point can be used to do crazy things with stuff like ethanol.

May be that all that is meant to be discovered cause its part of the fun.

[Power and Wealth]

If there was no way of getting rid of the heat, everything would at some point overheat. Energy is energy and since there is an infinite amount of heat able to enter an area via geysers, a base would at some point cook off.

[Sheep]

depends what you mean by deleting heat...
Some heat deletion mechanics were added on propose, with the aim to balance the game.
Those are:
1. weezeworts - a plant that deletes heat / cools the surroundings
2. Ice machine - heats the immediate surroundings but makes cold ice (The heat that is generated is 80% of the heat that the ice/water loses in the process.)
3. ATEN - anti thermal entropty nullifier. its a ruins-building that cools the surrounds. The devs made exectly so players would have a way to deal with heat and its very obvious that it was on propose.
4. steam turbine - has an equation for deleting heat (and the heat deleted depends on the steam input and temp) and is the strongest from those 4 options.

All those things were added with the aim to provide players a way to deal with heat, and is the core of the heat management side of the game.

However, there are some things that may or may not be on propose. Such as a lot of building having a constant temperature output even if the input temperature changes (electrolyzer outputs the same temperature if the water input is 20C or 70C). However, those kinds of 'exploits' are minor compare to the heat deletion done by steam turbines and ATEN.

[Sheep]

and as for 'Am I just making my life more difficult by steering away from these means? ' - Yes, definetly. In most asteroids (any one which is not rime or terra) you could not get to rockets and space (presumably late game) without using some sort of tool to deal with heat.

Industry, gysters and meteors add heat to the asteroid contently. without doing stuff to cool it down, temperatures gonna just rise non-stop up to the point crops wont grow and dupes will get scorched in every point on the map.

So, if you make case for 'heat deletion', the same case can be made for 'heat creation' which is the examples I brought (industry, gysters and meteors ).

If you really dont like heat management, play on Rime. Big chunk of players play mainly this asteroid and its really fun and different type of game.

[flashbacck]

It's up to you. I agree some heat deleting methods people have discovered do fell like exploits. I just avoid using them. I don't fault people for using them... it's not like the physics in the game are perfect.

[DizzyChimera]

I would assume that unless something is specifically designed to delete heat (like the Wheezeworts, venting stuff into space, or the Thermo-nullifier-thingy I can't remember the name of) that it's an exploit.