Best food for infinite running base?

[Icelus]

I'm trying to build a self sustaining base that I could just leave unattended for days or weeks, I'm thinking about the food now, so far mealwood has been enough but I'm trying to improve the quality. Anything that uses pincha pepper is out of the question, just because Phosphorus is not renewable.
What food would you guys recommend? Right now I think my only option would be fried mushrooms.

[?]

Mealwood is probably the best

Other plants take more time either needed to be cooked or something else like can't be eaten raw

[Icelus]

I head that in the next content upgrade mealwood would need dirt to grow, also it has a negative quality, that's why I'm thinking on mushrooms. Honesty I would go for something with pincha pepper for sure if it wasn't for the phosphorus. I think that I have a few tons of it but it would eventually run out...

[?]

Originally posted by Mímir:

I head that in the next content upgrade mealwood would need dirt to grow, also it has a negative quality, that's why I'm thinking on mushrooms. Honesty I would go for something with pincha pepper for sure if it wasn't for the phosphorus. I think that I have a few tons of it but it would eventually run out...

Dirt can be obtained by evaporating polluted water to steam and dirt

For now farm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of food to not starve

[God's Drunkest Soldier]

Originally posted by TehPlayer14:

Originally posted by Mímir:

I head that in the next content upgrade mealwood would need dirt to grow, also it has a negative quality, that's why I'm thinking on mushrooms. Honesty I would go for something with pincha pepper for sure if it wasn't for the phosphorus. I think that I have a few tons of it but it would eventually run out...

Dirt can be obtained by evaporating polluted water to steam and dirt

As you run out of water ♥♥♥

[Icelus]

Originally posted by Atomic Speed FT:

Originally posted by TehPlayer14:

Dirt can be obtained by evaporating polluted water to steam and dirt

As you run out of water ♥♥♥

With a steam geyser I never run out

[Icelus]

Originally posted by TehPlayer14:

Originally posted by Mímir:

I head that in the next content upgrade mealwood would need dirt to grow, also it has a negative quality, that's why I'm thinking on mushrooms. Honesty I would go for something with pincha pepper for sure if it wasn't for the phosphorus. I think that I have a few tons of it but it would eventually run out...

Dirt can be obtained by evaporating polluted water to steam and dirt

For now farm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of food to not starve

Sure, but I still think that Mushrooms are a better option for the positive quality.

[?]

Yeah person above is right its acutally reverse for me im flooding

I m trying to make a water freezer instead

[Babawze]

Originally posted by Mímir:

Originally posted by TehPlayer14:

Dirt can be obtained by evaporating polluted water to steam and dirt

For now farm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of food to not starve

Sure, but I still think that Mushrooms are a better option for the positive quality.

I find sleetwheet a better option, water and fertilizer is easy to renew, and no need to manage slimelung germs. Also has better quality

[?]

Originally posted by Babawze:

Originally posted by Mímir:

Sure, but I still think that Mushrooms are a better option for the positive quality.

I find sleetwheet a better option, water and fertilizer is easy to renew, and no need to manage slimelung germs

Of course you need to cool that water

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Mealwood for sure. But in the upcoming Occupational upgrade, Mealwood is heavily nerfed. Then I'd say that Bristle Blossom is the best because it can grow in 30*c now too.

Sleet Wheat is also pretty good but not overheating the place is a *pain*. Use water over 5*c and it will eventually overheat the place. Sleet Wheat can be used to make Berry sludge or frost buns. Or pepper bread but it isnt good as 'food' and more just for quality,

[?]

Originally posted by Meat Man (Alfons):

Mealwood for sure. But in the upcoming Occupational upgrade, Mealwood is heavily nerfed. Then I'd say that Bristle Blossom is the best because it can grow in 30*c now too.

Sleet Wheat is also pretty good but not overheating the place is a *pain*. Use water over 5*c and it will eventually overheat the place. Sleet Wheat can be used to make Berry sludge or frost buns. Or pepper bread but it isnt good as 'food' and more just for quality,

Yeah getting water at 5 is reallying annoying I wish we had some good liquid that could cool stuff without freezing easily at like -1/-18 and damage pipes...

I will try the hydrogen coolling setup somehow...

[Bellringer]

Mealwood to get the colony going at first, but shift to bristle berries when possible, they're easy to grow and only take water. You'll still probably want to have some mushrooms mid game and fiddle round with sleet wheat for kicks. I find you can simply not bother planting pinchapeppers, don't kill off too many of the wild growing ones and keep harvesting them seems to work fine as a supplement to your farm grown crops.

[?]

Originally posted by Bellringer:

Mealwood to get the colony going at first, but shift to bristle berries when possible, they're easy to grow and only take water. You'll still probably want to have some mushrooms mid game and fiddle round with sleet wheat for kicks. I find you can simply not bother planting pinchapeppers, don't kill off too many of the wild growing ones and keep harvesting them seems to work fine as a supplement to your farm grown crops.

Easy to grow no... you need cool water for that

[Bellringer]

Originally posted by TehPlayer14:

Easy to grow no... you need cool water for that

In jobs upgrade they'll grow up to 30 degrees... you'll still probably want to cool geyser water a little in the long run but not nearly as much as trying to grow sleet wheat

[Boink]

Food is currently heavily broken in the test branch - they went beyond nerfs into something akin to "really not fun" territory.

Tbh, the entire food chain / cooking is broken anyhow: you require vast amounts (5 each of hard to grow foods?!?) to cook single meals that colonies simply cannot support until you have 12+ dupes. And to get to that point? Now a massive headache: and for people saying "Dur, just use a steam geyser"... if your game is balanced around having a geyser and chilling the water, it's broken.

It's badly designed atm.

For reference: Rimworld had this issue to a lesser degree: it was almost never worth while cooking the fine+ meals, but that had a lot more advantages:

1) Far more varieties
2) Much larger amounts / dupe effort
3) Entire game supports larger groups far more easily
4) There was down-time to the process allowing for other things to happen
5) There was plenty of choice of how you could do this: farming, hunting, raising livestock, eating raiders and so on.

Example: farming and refrigerating x500 potatoes / rice and feeding a colony of 10 over winter had a nice "flow" to it: effort goes in, time passes, food is processed, well done, you've bought yourself another 2+ months of game time not eating each other (or your pets and prisoners). Sure, disaster could strike, but at least you could plan for contingencies.

Currently in ONI you're basically farming 24/7 just to feed 6-7 dupes and there's zero margin for errors - esp. with the constant environmental degredation (heat, mostly, but also water).

Worse, there's only one or two ways to mitigate this to succeed. Too simple, too tight and too finicky to appeal beyond min/maxing Minecraft loving types.


Not. Fun.