Oxygen Not Included

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MARTFONGER Mar 9, 2018 @ 5:01pm
Help boiling polluted water for dirt
The liquid tepidizer doesn't get hot enough to boil liquids - capital-F'ing WHY is that the case?

But since this is the case I tried a setup for dripping already max temp water over another tepidizer, big surprise that it won't run unless submerged which completely defeats the point.

How do all of these tepidizer drip setups I see online work? Did they break that in the last update?

I'm trying to get dirt for farming from polluted water.

Thanks!
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MARTFONGER Mar 9, 2018 @ 5:15pm 
Well nevermind. IDespite priorities incapacitating some of my duplicants (this thing is dangerous!) I managed to use my setup to make dirt. Not super great but sharing for searchers.

Basically what I did is take the max temp water from my sterilization tank and drip it over a tepidizer with a 1 square pool in the bottom. As soon as the tepidizer has enough liquid on it to function it instantly vaporizes it to dirt.

A little messy but flow valve adjustments should fix that.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1325821135
MARTFONGER Mar 11, 2018 @ 7:51pm 
So after much messing about with multiple stepped tepidizers (fail), space heaters (can get the water to 246.8 F but not to 246.83 F to vaporize to dirt, in my tests), and multiple refineries (huge fail), I came up with this;

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1328638653

The aquatuner will instantly vaporize small amounts to dirt. The automation is set up to move only 180 F pwater into the left chamber at (currently) 10g/s. The aquatuner doesn't come on unless there is .1 kg of water in the tank.

I haven't decided what to do about the steam yet but I don't think it will be too big of a problem.

This was all done in survival. This also needs automation to remove the dirt because dups constantly moving small amounts out of there is a bad thing. A very bad thing.

It seems however that even 8 worts is not even close to enough, even in a pressurized hydrogen system with constant flow, to cool a single aquatuner. So not sure what to do about that in extended survival plays. Maybe this will provide a small amount of overall watertank cooling but I doubt it'll be enough. Needs tuning.

Everyone is about to starve to death because just as I got this working I finally ran out of dirt. I haven't been able to farm in forever, since basically cycle 100 (I'm on 318), because of temperature problems. Next playthrough needs a bigger focus on cooling.

next run:
potted plants
water tank
hydro farms
pwater tank
find cold for worts
build wort system (worts in with oxylators next time?)
build dirt-maker (hope water has lasted this long)
profit


Last edited by MARTFONGER; Mar 11, 2018 @ 8:14pm
MrBlonde[GER] Mar 12, 2018 @ 4:53am 
my advice would be to forget about dirt based food asap. try to make the most of what you have and don't let anything go to waste. you should be able to grow bristle berries under normal living conditions right inside your base, the new farming options are great to do just that. until then, try to preserve the biomes in your world for as long as possible: put in doors/airlocks and don't destroy the insulation. collect seeds and store them in cool/sterile containers. autoharvest at your leisure. that should last quite awhile until you actually need to start thinking about a hydrogen cooling system.
L37 Mar 12, 2018 @ 7:29am 
I do not know conversion rates, but will not making fertilizer (and getting natural gas => free power in the process) be more effective?
Then you heat up oil or petroleum with aquatuners to 125+C and put fertilizer in it - you will get dirt. You may even use natural oil in oil biome, there are often hot enogh puddles of it there.
Last edited by L37; Mar 12, 2018 @ 7:31am
MARTFONGER Mar 13, 2018 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by L37:
I do not know conversion rates, but will not making fertilizer (and getting natural gas => free power in the process) be more effective?
Then you heat up oil or petroleum with aquatuners to 125+C and put fertilizer in it - you will get dirt. You may even use natural oil in oil biome, there are often hot enogh puddles of it there.

This almost seems to be the intended game route. Making fertilizer makes plants grow faster (does it stack with micronutrient fertilizer?) which itself grants a whole host of benefits and these seem to also provide dirt and power. I haven't got to this level yet, I'm actually having huge problems getting any adequate cooling system worked out, but I have been reading a lot and I can't see any other way to do renewable dirt..
Last edited by MARTFONGER; Mar 13, 2018 @ 11:33pm
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