conductive wire overloading

[twoxsp]

I have 2 transformers changing heavy watt wire energy into energy for conductive wires. The conductive wires keep overloading and breaking. I need to have more than 2000 watts as capacity for everything, but I don't know how to power my base without having the wires break or being forced to use heavy watt wire for my entire base. Any help is appreciated!

[FDru]

The point of transformers is to create separate circuits so they won't overload. Limit the circuits after each transformer to less than 2000. You can use as much heavy watt wire you want to connect all of your generators and batteries, but it's usually bad for using all over because of the huge decor penalty.

[Yogzototh]

Yeah, as said above, the transformers are really needed only on the step down. You dont need to step your power up with a transformer as there's already no limit on how much power can flow through a network (that is, except overloading that is not instant).
The generators will produce at full power no matter that kind of wires are used.

[twoxsp]

I'll do my best to seperate parts of my network so it doesn't over flow. Too bad all the rewiring is probably going to take a while. Thanks for the help!

[Makeineer]

This isn't an answer, but did it work? I would like to try it myself

[GD]

Be sure to never connect two segments from two different Transformers, it will always make problems.

Hover with the mouse of the exit wire of the transformer (or any wire segment) you will see the current and max power usage. Subdivide you wire-networks as long as it's max is over 2000 W (2 KW) or live with the risk of overloading if risk is acceptable, e.g. sometimes not all devices are active at all times.

If there is a refinery in the sub-network also place at least a small bettery in this network (to the small wires not the heavy wire). This battery will than work as a buffer/provider only for this sub-network and it provides enough juice for the refinery when activated.

[twoxsp]

Originally posted by wyattco.company:

This isn't an answer, but did it work? I would like to try it myself

It did. I used 4 transformers, each going onto a separate section of conductive wire. Although it took a while to make all the refined metal as I didn't have smooth hatches or a discovered metal volcano.

[Butts McGee]

Originally posted by twoxsp:

Originally posted by wyattco.company:

This isn't an answer, but did it work? I would like to try it myself

It did. I used 4 transformers, each going onto a separate section of conductive wire. Although it took a while to make all the refined metal as I didn't have smooth hatches or a discovered metal volcano.

Transformers only provide 1kw power, conductive wires hold 2kw. You can wire two transformers into each conductive without overloading. You could have probably split the network into two safely.

That said, four probably isn't bad. Now you can double up on the transformers if needed and provide 8kw of stepped down power later.

[Areth]

Originally posted by Xaitercat!:

Originally posted by twoxsp:

It did. I used 4 transformers, each going onto a separate section of conductive wire. Although it took a while to make all the refined metal as I didn't have smooth hatches or a discovered metal volcano.

Transformers only provide 1kw power, conductive wires hold 2kw. You can wire two transformers into each conductive without overloading. You could have probably split the network into two safely.

That said, four probably isn't bad. Now you can double up on the transformers if needed and provide 8kw of stepped down power later.

Dude, no. Transformers store 1K joule (like a mini battery). You connect the bigger circle with your producer line (heavy watt wire). You hook up all your generators on this line.

Then you connect your consumers to the small circle. You can connect whatever type of wire here. It can be a heavy watt wire (for a set of consumers that go way above 2kW), a conductive wire (2kW), or a wire (1kW).

How do you know you've set everything correctly? Hover on your wirings for the producer bus. It should say...
Circuit Status: 4.48kW / 0 kW
Your multiple consumer bus should say...
Circuit Status: 0 kW / 2.28 kW (this circuit uses a heavy watt wire)
Circuit Status: 0 kW / 1.5 kW (this circuit uses a conductive wire)
Circuit Status: 0 kW / 0.5 kW (this circuit uses a wire)

The producer bus has less care for type of wiring. You can test this by hooking up 3 manual generators (generates 1.2kW) to a transformer's producer outlet using a wire. You can use a conductive wire on the consumer outlet and use 1.2kW without overloading.

[Butts McGee]

Originally posted by Areth:

Originally posted by Xaitercat!:

Transformers only provide 1kw power, conductive wires hold 2kw. You can wire two transformers into each conductive without overloading. You could have probably split the network into two safely.

That said, four probably isn't bad. Now you can double up on the transformers if needed and provide 8kw of stepped down power later.

Dude, no. Transformers store 1K joule (like a mini battery). You connect the bigger circle with your producer line (heavy watt wire). You hook up all your generators on this line.

Then you connect your consumers to the small circle. You can connect whatever type of wire here. It can be a heavy watt wire (for a set of consumers that go way above 2kW), a conductive wire (2kW), or a wire (1kW).

How do you know you've set everything correctly? Hover on your wirings for the producer bus. It should say...
Circuit Status: 4.48kW / 0 kW
Your multiple consumer bus should say...
Circuit Status: 0 kW / 2.28 kW (this circuit uses a heavy watt wire)
Circuit Status: 0 kW / 1.5 kW (this circuit uses a conductive wire)
Circuit Status: 0 kW / 0.5 kW (this circuit uses a wire)

The producer bus has less care for type of wiring. You can test this by hooking up 3 manual generators (generates 1.2kW) to a transformer's producer outlet using a wire. You can use a conductive wire on the consumer outlet and use 1.2kW without overloading.

I was talking about power consumption. I'm well aware that producers technically produce 0 load on the network.

Unless you mean to say transformers can provide unlimited power without overloading and only store 1Kw energy as a buffer. I'm not sure - I swear when conductive wiring first launched I couldn't power an Aquatuner without two transformers to a single conductive.

A single transformer would partially charge, then then power would cut due to insufficient supply for demand, then the transformer would start to charge again, and repeat.

[FDru]

Originally posted by Xaitercat!:

I was talking about power consumption. I'm well aware that producers technically produce 0 load on the network.

But it seems like you were suggesting to use excess transformers (unless I read that wrong). Much more than 1kW of power can go through a transformer so there's no need to have two for a conductive wire circuit.

[Areth]

Originally posted by Xaitercat!:

Unless you mean to say transformers can provide unlimited power without overloading and only store 1Kw energy as a buffer. I'm not sure - I swear when conductive wiring first launched I couldn't power an Aquatuner without two transformers to a single conductive.

A single transformer would partially charge, then then power would cut due to insufficient supply for demand, then the transformer would start to charge again, and repeat.

Ah, I apologize. I just see this type of post crop up from time to time and there's just misinformation left and right. And why I explained it in the most entry level way possible.

You can put a smart battery on the consumer side. The transformer will be able to provide 10kW with no single machinery limit. 400 joule power run-off.
The double transformers is valid and provides the same (5kW + 5kW), with a single machine limit of < 2kW. No power run-off.

I do the smart battery personally since it only outputs +2.5W heat (and run-off can be controlled by setting the active to a low percentage).

You only ever need to do the above if you have a machine that does over 1kW. Otherwise avoid the additional heat.

[Butts McGee]

Originally posted by Areth:

Originally posted by Xaitercat!:

Unless you mean to say transformers can provide unlimited power without overloading and only store 1Kw energy as a buffer. I'm not sure - I swear when conductive wiring first launched I couldn't power an Aquatuner without two transformers to a single conductive.

A single transformer would partially charge, then then power would cut due to insufficient supply for demand, then the transformer would start to charge again, and repeat.

Ah, I apologize. I just see this type of post crop up from time to time and there's just misinformation left and right. And why I explained it in the most entry level way possible.

You can put a smart battery on the consumer side. The transformer will be able to provide 10kW with no single machinery limit. 400 joule power run-off.
The double transformers is valid and provides the same (5kW + 5kW), with a single machine limit of < 2kW. No power run-off.

I do the smart battery personally since it only outputs +2.5W heat (and run-off can be controlled by setting the active to a low percentage).

You only ever need to do the above if you have a machine that does over 1kW. Otherwise avoid the additional heat.

Oh, that's a clever loophole. Nice.

[twoxsp]

Oh ok. Sorry I must have misunderstood. If I notice things running out of power in the future I'll add a second transistor to a network. Everything seems to be doing fine as there are a lot of things that aren't in constant use or even any use at all really.

[Butts McGee]

Originally posted by twoxsp:

Oh ok. Sorry I must have misunderstood. If I notice things running out of power in the future I'll add a second transistor to a network. Everything seems to be doing fine as there are a lot of things that aren't in constant use or even any use at all really.

Not required if your machines are consuming less than 1Kw each. You can use the "batteries generate no load" trick to bypass the 1Kw limit of a transformer.