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Butts McGee Jan 21, 2018 @ 8:14pm
Freezing Carbon
So, I did a bit of testing.

We can freeze carbon to dispose of it without water using the Anti-Entropy things. All you gotta do is encase the Nullifier in Obsidian with a High Pressure Vent and fill it to 20Kg per tile of Hydrogen, and keep the Nullifier powered.

Then encase that box in a bigger box that you vent the carbon into, straight from the generators.

I was able to freeze the carbon of 24 generators using two Nullifiers, using the second one as a radiator system inside the carbon room.

Left the game running unattended for 300 cycles and everything was still fine!
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Originally posted by CAT STATUS: SPOOPED:
So, I did a bit of testing.

We can freeze carbon to dispose of it without water using the Anti-Entropy things. All you gotta do is encase the Nullifier in Obsidian with a High Pressure Vent and fill it to 20Kg per tile of Hydrogen, and keep the Nullifier powered.

Then encase that box in a bigger box that you vent the carbon into, straight from the generators.

I was able to freeze the carbon of 24 generators using two Nullifiers, using the second one as a radiator system inside the carbon room.

Left the game running unattended for 300 cycles and everything was still fine!

Or you can just use slickers to turn it into oil , costing 0 effort and 0 energy , maybe a bit effort when your base is big as you may want to capcure them and build dedicated rooms but...its optional
Pyromancer Jan 22, 2018 @ 12:28pm 
But why? It's one of more useful gases

You can destroy heat with it by putting near boiling water you used to cool something through carbon skimmer, then dumping heat into polluted water and sending it through water sieve.

You can turn it to oil and make plastics, or to fertilizer and natural gas and generate more power/farm wheat.
AquaX Jan 22, 2018 @ 3:28pm 
Co2 gas a hidden use if you study the interaction of the state of the materials. You can use it to cool water with little to no pwr cost.

Gas can not interact with liquid. But solid CAN interact with liquid. By having the co2 get cold enough to become solid, it will drop and take heat out of the water it drops into. The water loses heat and the co2 turns back to gas and they separate. But once it leaves, the cold will return it back into a solid and the cycle repeats until the water turns to ice.
Butts McGee Jan 23, 2018 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by AquaX:
Co2 gas a hidden use if you study the interaction of the state of the materials. You can use it to cool water with little to no pwr cost.

Gas can not interact with liquid. But solid CAN interact with liquid. By having the co2 get cold enough to become solid, it will drop and take heat out of the water it drops into. The water loses heat and the co2 turns back to gas and they separate. But once it leaves, the cold will return it back into a solid and the cycle repeats until the water turns to ice.

This is an excellent way of using the Nullifiers to cool geyser water!

The point of freezing the carbon though in this experiment was to "dispose" of it without water. 24 gas generators produce a LOT of carbon. A lot more than you can use, a lot more than you purify sustainably.

It's a useful trick if you have a VERY large power base producing a lot excess carbon.
AquaX Jan 23, 2018 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by CAT STATUS: SPOOPED:
Originally posted by AquaX:
Co2 gas a hidden use if you study the interaction of the state of the materials. You can use it to cool water with little to no pwr cost.

Gas can not interact with liquid. But solid CAN interact with liquid. By having the co2 get cold enough to become solid, it will drop and take heat out of the water it drops into. The water loses heat and the co2 turns back to gas and they separate. But once it leaves, the cold will return it back into a solid and the cycle repeats until the water turns to ice.

This is an excellent way of using the Nullifiers to cool geyser water!

The point of freezing the carbon though in this experiment was to "dispose" of it without water. 24 gas generators produce a LOT of carbon. A lot more than you can use, a lot more than you purify sustainably.

It's a useful trick if you have a VERY large power base producing a lot excess carbon.
That job goes down to slicksters. The game gives around 15+ or so slicksters now. With the slight temp nerf of oil biome, you do not have rush grab them now before they die. You might need several gas pipes to dump multiple co2 produced w/o clogging the lines but i think they should handle the gases fine.
Last edited by AquaX; Jan 23, 2018 @ 12:54pm
Clonefarmer Jan 23, 2018 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by CAT STATUS: SPOOPED:
Originally posted by AquaX:
Co2 gas a hidden use if you study the interaction of the state of the materials. You can use it to cool water with little to no pwr cost.

Gas can not interact with liquid. But solid CAN interact with liquid. By having the co2 get cold enough to become solid, it will drop and take heat out of the water it drops into. The water loses heat and the co2 turns back to gas and they separate. But once it leaves, the cold will return it back into a solid and the cycle repeats until the water turns to ice.

This is an excellent way of using the Nullifiers to cool geyser water!

The point of freezing the carbon though in this experiment was to "dispose" of it without water. 24 gas generators produce a LOT of carbon. A lot more than you can use, a lot more than you purify sustainably.

It's a useful trick if you have a VERY large power base producing a lot excess carbon.
A slickster farm can consume a large quantity of carbon dioxide.

This farm eats the carbon dioxide of 18 natural gas generators, a handful of coal generators and all the co2 the colony produces.. I need more co2 for crude oil production.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1279439508

If you don't use crude oil or dig into the oil biome freezing the co2 to a solid sounds like a good low energy alternative. I hope they add a reason to use dry ice in the future.
Butts McGee Jan 23, 2018 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Clonefarmer:
Originally posted by CAT STATUS: SPOOPED:

This is an excellent way of using the Nullifiers to cool geyser water!

The point of freezing the carbon though in this experiment was to "dispose" of it without water. 24 gas generators produce a LOT of carbon. A lot more than you can use, a lot more than you purify sustainably.

It's a useful trick if you have a VERY large power base producing a lot excess carbon.
A slickster farm can consume a large quantity of carbon dioxide.

This farm eats the carbon dioxide of 18 natural gas generators, a handful of coal generators and all the co2 the colony produces.. I need more co2 for crude oil production.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1279439508

If you don't use crude oil or dig into the oil biome freezing the co2 to a solid sounds like a good low energy alternative. I hope they add a reason to use dry ice in the future.

I'll try one more time.

Even if you have enough Slicksters to consume all of this carbon, it produces oil. The oil must be vented, somehow. Or your Slicksters will run out of space to excrete oil and you run out of space to place carbon.

Yes, you can and should convert as much carbon to oil AS YOU NEED. But if you are producing the oil from carbon faster than you are consuming, your system is timed to fail.

This is typically acceptable. Most colonies are just trading death in 10 days for death in 50 days for death in 100 days, and so on. Constantly moving their expiration date out.

I cite this as a notable trick because it has no expiration date. You can vent the carbon forever. It is a Blackhole with no by-product capping it.

That's all I intend to note.

It is not an implication should do this instead of feeding Slicksters. It a possibility if you have more carbon than you need for oil. That's it. A place to sock it all away forever, with no drawback.
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