How to produce large amounts of dirt?

[Dschinghis Pan]

I need so much dirt for so many things...
First for the meal at my drecko farm.
Then for breeding smooth-hatches for refined carbon for steel.
And for my currently abandoned wheat-farm in an ice biome.
All of those add up to a fkton of dirt.

I am currently cooking pwater wherever I can amount enough heat to do so. But it's barely enough to support the Drecko farm. I am not even able to do the other 2 things.
Is there another way to produce dirt in large amounts, that I am missing?
Having some compost and putting in spoiled food or over abundance of seeds is nice, but also not nearly enough.

[custume]

do you have pips in your map, use them, they make dirt

[Dschinghis Pan]

Originally posted by custume:

do you have pips in your map, use them, they make dirt

Really? Good to know. Guess I have to hope the printing pod offers some, because it's a pre-launch map... well time to set up a pip-farm and hope for the best. Alredy got some arbor seeds from it though.

[snuggleform]

Using the water sieve on polluted water also helps, and sometimes you can find a polluted or cool slush geyser which gives that.

[L37]

Is boiling p-water actually effective? IIRC sieve produces more p-dirt. Also, use carbon skimmers to convert water to p-water, then sieve it. Grow trees and make ethanol out of wood, a lot of p-dirt and a lot of co2 for more p-dirt using sieve. Then there are pips which poop dirt. Or if you need it really fast just cook some slime/algae into dirt.

[Dschinghis Pan]

Originally posted by L37:

Is boiling p-water actually effective? IIRC sieve produces more p-dirt. Also, use carbon skimmers to convert water to p-water, then sieve it. Grow trees and make ethanol out of wood, a lot of p-dirt and a lot of co2 for more p-dirt using sieve. Then there are pips which poop dirt. Or if you need it really fast just cook some slime/algae into dirt.

No idea if it is effective, but I assume the cooker could process more pwater, if I manage to keep up with my energy-production.

I am running short on algea and somehow manage to use it up, while mining out the entire map for more slime. Just built a puft farm in hopes of getting a more reliable source of slime.

[L37]

It actually gave me interesting idea... what if you run skimmer(s) as a part of steam turbine setup? With how output temps work now it should be still 95C p-water going out, and immediately boiling once it drops back inside steam room. With no other power requirements other than some power to run skimmer(s)

[Strygald]

boiling polluted water is pretty crap, not only do you only get tiny amounts of dirt but you lose water too.

If you need lots of dirt then ethanol production is the way to go, you get tons of polluted dirt just continuously pouring out of them.

[custume]

Originally posted by Strygald:

If you need lots of dirt then ethanol production is the way to go, you get tons of polluted dirt just continuously pouring out of them.

True but if you like something to make dirt that dont evolve spending stuff, pips is the way to go, they dont require much wood (actually if you get a wild tree is even better) and bread like crazy

[Dschinghis Pan]

Originally posted by Strygald:

boiling polluted water is pretty crap, not only do you only get tiny amounts of dirt but you lose water too.

If you need lots of dirt then ethanol production is the way to go, you get tons of polluted dirt just continuously pouring out of them.

K thanks.
I hoped to save energy by just builing the pwater instead of running it through a sieve. Seems like the sieve turns 4% into dirt, boiling only 1%... so I need to boil like 20l of pwater to gain as much dirt as one sieve. Guess I'll have to look into that. Loosing water is not an issue, I currently have an entire ice-biome filled with water and pwater thanks to 2 water-geysers I recently uncoverd there xD
Adding in my 3 cold-steam geysers, my main concern is cooling the water.



But this definitely increases my option. And it all starts with building a lumber farm.

[Dschinghis Pan]

Wait a sec... arbor trees also need large amounts of dirt as fertilizer (10kg/cycle). And I don't have a rust biome due to pre-launch map >.<
So is it worth it? Like, can get more than 10kg of dirt per tree per cycle?

[L37]

Originally posted by Dschinghis Pan:

Wait a sec... arbor trees also need large amounts of dirt as fertilizer (10kg/cycle). And I don't have a rust biome due to pre-launch map >.<
So is it worth it? Like, can get more than 10kg of dirt per tree per cycle?

I do not know how much trees exactly 1 ethanol distiller requires to run constantly (2? 4?), but it produces ~333g/s of p-dirt (~200kg/cycle) + a lot of co2 (~166g/s)...
It is also generally power-positive, especially if you are willing to tune-up those generator.

[rav]

Originally posted by Dschinghis Pan:

Wait a sec... arbor trees also need large amounts of dirt as fertilizer (10kg/cycle). And I don't have a rust biome due to pre-launch map >.<
So is it worth it? Like, can get more than 10kg of dirt per tree per cycle?

give your pip some seeds and natural tiles and they will plant them for free.

[Dschinghis Pan]

Originally posted by rav:

Originally posted by Dschinghis Pan:

Wait a sec... arbor trees also need large amounts of dirt as fertilizer (10kg/cycle). And I don't have a rust biome due to pre-launch map >.<
So is it worth it? Like, can get more than 10kg of dirt per tree per cycle?

give your pip some seeds and natural tiles and they will plant them for free.

Which means waiting for the printer to spit out some pips... well, at least I can set this up while waiting <-<

I really didn't expect dirt of all things to be so hard to obtain.

[custume]

Originally posted by Dschinghis Pan:

Which means waiting for the printer to spit out some pips...

here's a tip, if you have patience you can not select anything, reload a save and keep checking.

every time you reload the save the selection change

[Dschinghis Pan]

According to the wiki, I can just compost balm lilly and reed fiber to turn them like 1to1 into dirt.
Guess I'll do that for a while and wait for another shot at a pip ^^