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dreizehnX Aug 9, 2019 @ 5:43am
Why do you build a Liquid Reservoir?
I have seen people using Liquid Reservoirs but I cannot get behind the reason.
To me it seems just as if a storage between the acutal water resource and the destination, so isn't this just a waste of resources?
What am I missing here?
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fractalgem Aug 9, 2019 @ 11:09am 
It could warm up if that's what you wanted or you can do the opposite and cool something down. This can be useful for something like water geyser that output 95C water since you can slowly cool all the water in a reservoir overtime even as you are using the water for something else. Even better is metal refineries where you can lower the temp of the runoff down by equalizing it with cooler liquids.

For instance, my polluted water comes out freezing cold, but my water sources are scorching hot, so i can use a simple loop to fully equalize their temperatures and then feed the less valuable polluted water to pinchapepper and reeds. (the fresh stuff is used to get the base itself super cool, this just lets me delete heat in the long run since I couldn't get the steam turbine to work. )
Ellip Aug 9, 2019 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Dschinghis Pan:
Originally posted by Bokonon:
LOL
So if I understand this correctly, this also means putting the building in a pool of chlorine will kill all the germs within the contained water?
Right now I am pumping new water through a cold steam geyser and/or the boiling room of a steam-engine to sanitize it and cool it down...

You put the reservoir building in a room filled with chlorine, then you fill it with what you want disinfected. You have automation setup so the liquid sit there for a period of time before emptying the reservoir with the now germ free liquid and then start the process all over again.
Bokonon Aug 9, 2019 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by L37:
IMO with how ridiculously expensive pumps are venting something you already got into pipes out into the world is huge waste and should be avoided if possible. Reservoirs help a lot with it. Cooling loop buffer/overflow tank. Storage for intermidiate production products like petroleum. Storage for cold/clean water for farms. Buffers and storage for oxygen and natgas. Essentially everything where huge amounts of storage are not needed...
Just consider that inserting pump/vent into aquatuner loop, or into refinery loop, increases power consumption at least by 20%...
I hear what you're saying, maybe I'm just so used to pumps and vents I don't notice the expense. My current base for example, cycle 384 and I definitely got a good seed. I have more power and water than I know what to do with, almost 1.5 million food, 4% stress (right now, it's usually 0). It really doesn't bother me that I run some pumps in a wasteful manner, they're all automated so they only run when they need to. I have 2 looming problems one of which is probably 100+ cycles away the other is closer but my next project will fix that.

But again, I'm used to my way and will play more with these ideas on my next map, I appreciate everyone's thoughts, it's always great to learn new ways of doing things.
Xuhybrid Aug 9, 2019 @ 3:04pm 
a) It's pre-pumped
b) It stops polluted water offgas
c) The contents don't conduct heat
cyboogie king Aug 9, 2019 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by The Tempted Man:
10 tons of water storage, homie.
LIER! they are 5 tons
Eagle_of_Fire Aug 9, 2019 @ 3:39pm 
Excuse me to bump into the thread like this. I realise I'm asking a question which was briefly discussed on page one... But...

Are you guys saying that AIR chlorine would affect WATER germs if the reservoir is sitting in a chlorine environment?

And if yes... How the heck is this making any kind of sense?
Bokonon Aug 9, 2019 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:
Excuse me to bump into the thread like this. I realise I'm asking a question which was briefly discussed on page one... But...

Are you guys saying that AIR chlorine would affect WATER germs if the reservoir is sitting in a chlorine environment?

And if yes... How the heck is this making any kind of sense?
Yes, gaseous chlorine. As to how it makes sense, it's a game :P
DesertDwarf Aug 9, 2019 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:
Excuse me to bump into the thread like this. I realise I'm asking a question which was briefly discussed on page one... But...

Are you guys saying that AIR chlorine would affect WATER germs if the reservoir is sitting in a chlorine environment?

And if yes... How the heck is this making any kind of sense?
I'm new to ONI (although it's been on my wish list for a long time). I've watched several videos since I bought it over the weekend. Many of these more experienced players put their Ration Boxes in a chlorine room so it won't spoil and so it won't be affected by germs.

As @Bokonon noted above, "it's a game." But, think about this. You can make an Airflow Tile that lets gas flow through but not liquid. Pretend your Liquid Reservoirs use the same technology. :-)
Defektiv Aug 9, 2019 @ 7:00pm 
Because building redundancy and sustainability are strangely addictive. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1830146139
Eagle_of_Fire Aug 9, 2019 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by DesertDwarf:
Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:
Excuse me to bump into the thread like this. I realise I'm asking a question which was briefly discussed on page one... But...

Are you guys saying that AIR chlorine would affect WATER germs if the reservoir is sitting in a chlorine environment?

And if yes... How the heck is this making any kind of sense?
I'm new to ONI (although it's been on my wish list for a long time). I've watched several videos since I bought it over the weekend. Many of these more experienced players put their Ration Boxes in a chlorine room so it won't spoil and so it won't be affected by germs.

As @Bokonon noted above, "it's a game." But, think about this. You can make an Airflow Tile that lets gas flow through but not liquid. Pretend your Liquid Reservoirs use the same technology. :-)
I'm not new to ONI at all. I've been part of the vast majority of the EA. Having chlorine affect non hermetic boxes is just fine... But closed up and hermetic reservoir? Man, someone missed some heavy checkboxes in quality control.
Last edited by Eagle_of_Fire; Aug 9, 2019 @ 9:09pm
dreizehnX Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:24pm 
Sorry if this might be obvious but I think I got this one wrong: Some people here mentioned that a liquid reservoir prevents me from needing a pump. I think I still need a pump inside the puddle of water to pump it into the pipes and into the liquid reservoir - and not simply a pipe into the water that leads to the liquid reservoir, don't I?

Originally posted by SKull:
Originally posted by dreizehnX:
I have seen people using Liquid Reservoirs but I cannot get behind the reason.
To me it seems just as if a storage between the acutal water resource and the destination, so isn't this just a waste of resources?
What am I missing here?

Simple answer is to breed Pacu for shells and meat. The bigger the reservoir, the more fish you can have in one place.
Wait, you can breed inside the reservoir?
fractalgem Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:35pm 
Ok. So.

You do need to pump things into the tank in the first place, but you can then use the resevoir to "power" a cooling loop without needing any more electricity. You can do it with just a pipe bridge too, but you'll have less stuff in the loop.

And he's talking about the type of resevoir you carve out of the asteroid for fish breeding.
Last edited by fractalgem; Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:36pm
Fangthane Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:45pm 
dreizehnX, you need a pump to take the water wherever it was going to go initially anyhow; if you put a reservoir on the end of that line, you don't need an extra pump (but yes, you still need that first one)
Myself, I'm a dilettante at best, but I use 'em to store extra water in my looped decarb/washroom/hydrolyzer circuit - I charge the system (pump until I have enough water in one or more reservoirs) and it runs for a good while with no further maintenance, until I need to pump in more water to refill. I got the idea from pressurised in-floor water-heat rigs.
L37 Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:46pm 
Cooling loop is just one example (for which the fact that reservoir averages temperature of all its contents is arguably even more important than power), there are also all the cases when you need to store gas/liquid that's already in pipes. Like for example you are cooling water by pumping it through ice biome. Or you are producing petroleum using oil refinery. You can just build storage tank, as large as you like, and put it there, but to use it you will have to use pump again. Or you store it in reservoir(s) insead and you will not need those pump. And depending on situation it can save a lot of power, like really a lot, especially for gases.
Last edited by L37; Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:48pm
dreizehnX Aug 9, 2019 @ 10:51pm 
Thanks, I got it right now about the pump.
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