So...ice doesn't cool water?

[Stretchytall]

I dumped 16 tons of ice in a hot water pool to cool the water in advance of melting the ice and shipping the cooled water to my base. The ice is warming at an EXTREMELY slow rate, and the water doesn't seem to be cooling. What's going on? In real world physics, the water should be cooling as the ice absorbs thermal energy from the water. Is the game not programmed like that? Any tips? I need the water.

[snuggleform]

If you hover over "thermal conductivity" in any of the information panels, you will see that the way the game calcluates heat transfer is based on the MINIMUM of the conductivities of the two materials.

Ice is around 2 dtus/c, and water is at 0.6. Thus, the game is using the 0.6 as the coefficient of heat transfer. It's not that impressive.

Also, note that heat transfer is based on what the particular object is touching/adjacent to. So a "large" pool of hot water will cool ice just as well as a "smaller" one provided that all the ice is submerged.

So what am I trying to say here...I guess what I'm saying is that it's not unexpected that dumping ice into hot water sort of melts it slowly.

Is there a better way to do it? I think so, probably use icy fans, although I haven't done the math I'm pretty sure it's specifically designed to use up ice to cool areas faster than just letting ice alone melt. Use a piping system that goes through the icy fans and circulates throughout a lot of the water you are trying to cool.

That's my guess, as a week-old newbie to this game. Experts can feel free to comment on the validity of my statements.

[fluxtorrent]

There is a reason icebergs take so long to melt. TONS of ice VS kg of water. After that its math.

[RND2dTH]

you can build tempshift plate with ice. just build them directly in your water pool.

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by RND:

you can build tempshift plate with ice. just build them directly in your water pool.

This. This is one great use of tempshift plates. They help equalize temperature, they "spread" the heat/cold better than anything else, it's what they're for. And they're purely mechanical, no power needed, no byproducts unless they're ice, then they melt leaving the water/polluted water they were made from. Only downside to them is they take a lot of material and take a long time to build.

[snuggleform]

Hmm yea I just read the wiki on tempshift plates, one of the bullet points there says it's a great way to quickly melt polluted ice (but of course this should extend to regular ice as well).

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by wsc150:

Hmm yea I just read the wiki on tempshift plates, one of the bullet points there says it's a great way to quickly melt polluted ice (but of course this should extend to regular ice as well).

Just a tip from someone with a bit of playtime, if you can find the info you're looking for on oni-db.com it's the best info. I only look at the wiki for things not on the oni-db page. What you're saying is one of those things, I just thought in general you should also check out oni-db, it's the first resource I look to.

[snuggleform]

I'm getting increasingly tired of checking any website for oxygen info, it's all laggy/advertisement ridden. I really should just sit down and make my own text file for my own reference instead of getting ad jebaited left and right.

[Bokonon]

Google Chrome and Adblock Plus, I have no idea what you're talking about ...

oni-db shouldn't have any ads AFAIK.

[snuggleform]

When I click on a oxygen wiki like this

https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Building

I get ads along the top and right and I'm using chrome.

Ony db takes more than 5 seconds to load for me which makes me extremely suspicious. All the information I need is strictly text, so there's something funny going on. Does anyone know of a downloadable text file that has all the information that a player would want? If not I may have to sit down and create one myself. Also oni db seems to lack useful bullet points of interesting strategies for particular buildings/materials, so it's not a go-to for me either.

[fluxtorrent]

adblock plus were the keywords to avoid the adds on that wiki ;)

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by wsc150:

When I click on a oxygen wiki like this

https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Building

I get ads along the top and right and I'm using chrome.

Ony db takes more than 5 seconds to load for me which makes me extremely suspicious. All the information I need is strictly text, so there's something funny going on. Does anyone know of a downloadable text file that has all the information that a player would want? If not I may have to sit down and create one myself. Also oni db seems to lack useful bullet points of interesting strategies for particular buildings/materials, so it's not a go-to for me either.

oni-db's info is the most accurate and (well during EA anyway) the most up to date. There's more than one wiki, their info varies in quality and in how up to date they are. oni-db's info is basically straight out of the game, same info as the build menu screens and the building screens. Use it, don't use it, that's up to you, I don't get paid to promote them. It loads fast for me. And seriously try an ad blocker you will be happier (not just for ONI).

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

adblock plus were the keywords to avoid the adds on that wiki ;)

Do you use an ad blocker? If not ... well that's on you :P

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by Bokonon:

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

adblock plus were the keywords to avoid the adds on that wiki ;)

Do you use an ad blocker? If not ... well that's on you :P

I actually didn't up until about 2 weeks ago and entirely because of the oni wiki and the kerbal space program curse host... it just got too annoying.

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

Originally posted by Bokonon:

Do you use an ad blocker? If not ... well that's on you :P

I actually didn't up until about 2 weeks ago and entirely because of the oni wiki and the kerbal space program curse host... it just got too annoying.

I've been using it for years. Couldn't touch a browser without one. Bu then I don't have cable TV because I refuse to watch commercials.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by Bokonon:

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

I actually didn't up until about 2 weeks ago and entirely because of the oni wiki and the kerbal space program curse host... it just got too annoying.

I've been using it for years. Couldn't touch a browser without one. Bu then I don't have cable TV because I refuse to watch commercials.

only 3 sites I visit that it even really affects are the wiki, ksp mods, and youtube so it was not a priority for me, though ads on youtube were getting bad too