Aquatuner overheating

[Ge0force]

Hi there,

I'm trying to cool the hot liquid from my ore meter using an aqua tuner, set up in my chlorine chamber that I want to heat up to grow plants. But the aqua tuner immediately overheats, despite the liquid temp not coming close to the overheating temp of the tuner.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

[Ge0force]

Here is a screenshot of my setup:

https://imgur.com/uXGLg7I

[Clonefarmer]

Press f12 in game to take a screenshot with steam. Then go to profile and link image.

The aquatuner needs to be submerged in liquid to keep it cool.

[Strygald]

Originally posted by Clonefarmer:

Press f12 in game to take a screenshot with steam. Then go to profile and link image.

The aquatuner needs to be submerged in liquid to keep it cool.

Not strictly true, gas of sufficient pressure will stop it overheating too ie* steam or hydrogen, etc.. and you'll need a way to get rid of the heat it accumulates one way or another as well ie* steam turbine.

In any case, chlorine is a pretty bad choice to submerge it in unless you really know what you're doing.

[GD]

Chlorine is the worst gas to transfer heat with. No wonder it overheats. Even if you managed to increase the pressure in this chamber to that of liquids (1000 kg per tile) it would still overheat.

Use another gas (Steam is perfect for this) and increase the pressure to at least 20 kg per tile better would be 100kg or liquid-wise 1000kg per tile.

You might place a meandering gas pipe though the steam chamber if you want really want to heat up chlorine, but not as a storage and transfer gas.

[Ge0force]

Originally posted by Strygald:

gas of sufficient pressure will stop it overheating too ie* steam or hydrogen, etc.. and you'll need a way to get rid of the heat it accumulates one way or another as well ie* steam turbine.

In any case, chlorine is a pretty bad choice to submerge it in unless you really know what you're doing.

I've considered the Steam turbine, but the liquid coming out of my ore melter was only 40°C. I'll try a closed circuit to get the temp high enough for the Steam turbine.

Is there another effective way to heat up the Chlorine? The plants need about 40°C and I'm at 30.

Originally posted by GD:

Chlorine is the worst gas to transfer heat with. No wonder it overheats. Even if you managed to increase the pressure in this chamber to that of liquids (1000 kg per tile) it would still overheat.

Use another gas (Steam is perfect for this) and increase the pressure to at least 20 kg per tile better would be 100kg or liquid-wise 1000kg per tile.

You might place a meandering gas pipe though the steam chamber if you want really want to heat up chlorine, but not as a storage and transfer gas.

Seems this game is more complex than I thought. Thanks for your advice, I'll be sure to try this!

[Bokonon]

Originally posted by Ge0force:

Is there another effective way to heat up the Chlorine? The plants need about 40°C and I'm at 30.

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Seems this game is more complex than I thought. Thanks for your advice, I'll be sure to try this!

Use a heating (and where needed cooling) loop. Heat up a liquid or gas (liquids are better) elsewhere, pump it through insulated pipes to where you want to heat up then use radiant piping in this area. Heat will transfer out of this liquid/gas into the chlorine. Just remember that you're transferring heat, the liquid/gas you're using will cool down and need to be re-heated to stay effective. BTW this is also for cooling, just use a cool liquid/gas in your loop.

You could also pump the chlorine through a warm environment and then back to your farm room.

ONI's "cuteness" is deceiving, it'a a very complex game :)

[GD]

Heat amount and exchange is different for each material. Check Thermal Capacity and Thermal Conductivity for each material you want to use it govers how much and how well heat transfers between materials. Chlorine can neither store a lof of energy nor can it exchange heat well it's parameters on that reflect this.

[GD]

Originally posted by Bokonon:

ONI's "cuteness" is deceiving, it'a a very complex game :)

So true. One may conclude it's made for kids at first but looks can be deceiving.

[Maltsi]

if you only need to heat chlorine to 40c then use Space Heater, its more than enough to keep your farm warm

[Hedning]

If you want to heat the chlorine using the aquatuner help it a little by using tempshift plates, metal tiles and take it slow. Using an aquatuner is a great way to heat anything, including chorine, just beware that the aquatuner can heat very quickly, so stop the flow and let it cool down when it gets too hot.

[GD]

Or build a wall below the farm, preferable metal and build electrolysers below it. They create oxygen with 60°C all the time. You may want to cool the oxygen down anyway so why not give a little of it to your farm.

You could also send the hot oxygen first through your greenhouse (in pipes) before cooling further.

[Ge0force]

Thankx for your advice guys!

About my initial question: it seems I don't need to cool the liquid at all for the ore melter. At least not yet.The temperature is only rising a few degrees, so at least can can produce some decent metals now.

[Hedning]

Making steel heats petroleum coolant by 130 degrees, so beware that different recipes add different amounts of heat.

[Zefnoly]

https://youtu.be/yvhKKTEFTyE
This video shows a very good way of keeping your coolant cool enough for about any metal process.

If you use oil + steamturbine you can avoid the need of aqatuner to cool it down. As keeping the oil at 90-110 degrees wont be a problem for the metal refinery. As oil wont boil unless its 300-400 degrees. And you usually just end up with oil at 200+ degrees. This can continously power the steamturbine which will cool it down eventually. So you can reuse a whole lot of the heat energy you spend on the metal refineries...

Also use very insulated pipes. You dont want this continously looping oil to heat up your base. Use ceramic for the pipes and the tiles keeping the heat inside steamturbine.