Taming a leaky oil fissure

[ewpayne]

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So this oil fissure says its putting out oil at a super high temperature, but with a little bit of water in this area, it only steams up a little.

I'm stuck in this perpetual steamy water / oil loop.

I'd like to make use of the heat this generates, but if i don't have a cooling method this'll get out of hand i know for sure.

[Hedning]

If you insulate the oil better and remove the insulation for the steam turbine then it will likely work fine. It's not that much heat left after going through a steam turbine. Also tempshift plates next to insulated tiles are counter productive. One tries to insulate while the other tries to conduct.

[kingjames488]

water has over twice the heat capacity of oil, so you can expect either like 75% drops in temp(after considering heat loss through doors and such) or to use half as much water, though to make it work you'd pretty much have to maintain a pool of hot oil at like 130C to drop water into and flash it to steam while the temp is high enough. making it a closed system would also make it more efficient. could have something like a smaller box around the geyser with it in the middle towards the top of the box, put in thermo sensors to both pump out oil at like 128, pump in water at like 150, and turn on the turbine at like 130.

or set up an aquatuner.

[L37]

The question is, why do you need to cool oil down at all?
You can use it as is, or even better - heat it up just a bit more and get petroleum.

[ewpayne]

Not gonna lie. I suck at aquatuners. I think ya'll may be right about turning it into petroleum. I was just trying to utilize the heat to generate free power. I was concerned about heating up the base by moving it around.

I found a gold volcano and a mini volcano nearby. I can move it to those and get them heated that way.

[Shame]

In case you find you have to get a geyser to stop being active at any time, you can just clog it to overpressure by surrounding the area underneath it with some automated doors connected with may be a clock sensor, while having some form of liquid in the area around it stay at level above the geyser when the doors close, as that will overpressure the geyser, resulting it not spilling out anything.

[Xilo The Odd]

i find its better in the end to pump the liquid away from the geyser if possible and run it through a cooling system of sorts that way. result, no liquids getting mixed. so you could use the water for heat transfer to make steam if you wanted, just run radiant pipes through water to eliminate some of the heat. later, add an aqua tuner to the line and have its output be insulated pipes to keep the cold in the oil and the heat in the water. now you've got a super chill liquid to do stuff with.

but other advice in here is better overall, dump more of your heat into the oil and make it turn to petrol. far more useful of a process.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

i find its better in the end to pump the liquid away from the geyser if possible and run it through a cooling system of sorts that way. result, no liquids getting mixed.

I thought about that as well, but the problem is that you actually can't just pump it away. The oil that comes from this geyser is often above 300c. A pump made out of steel have a overheat temperature of 275c. So unless you want to break your pump right away, you need to cool the oil down before you can pump it away. When you are at the point the liquid can be pumped away for cooling you already solved the problem of taming the geyser.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

i find its better in the end to pump the liquid away from the geyser if possible and run it through a cooling system of sorts that way. result, no liquids getting mixed.

I thought about that as well, but the problem is that you actually can't just pump it away. The oil that comes from this geyser is often above 300c. A pump made out of steel have a overheat temperature of 275c. So unless you want to break your pump right away, you need to cool the oil down before you can pump it away. When you are at the point the liquid can be pumped away for cooling you already solved the problem of taming the geyser.

i'll have to check the fissure on my map, but mine is also fairly hot but ti comes out at such a rate that just the air seems to cool it down below 100c, you might be able to run a gas pipe system in there where you heat air to cool it off as its made. as stated, oils heat capacity is fairly low.

but if a pump would break down, the next solution is to run the water directly through it in radiant pipes with another pump system then the pump within the chamber shouldnt break.

[ewpayne]

yeah, my oil gets cooled fairly quickly. it's creating some cool(ish) steam. but i figured at 900f it should be boiling the water and producing useable steam. but that doesnt seem to be the case. Hopefully reassigning the tempshift plates will do something. No changes yet...

[Xilo The Odd]

well i think the best quick fix solution there is gonna be wating for that to go dormant or once there isnt any steam, go in and build a radiant pipe and run water off a smelter through it to give the water and oil in there a higher base temp to work off of. should solve a bit of the issue. and maybe make petroleum.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

well i think the best quick fix solution there is gonna be wating for that to go dormant or once there isnt any steam, go in and build a radiant pipe and run water off a smelter through it to give the water and oil in there a higher base temp to work off of. should solve a bit of the issue. and maybe make petroleum.

Do not use water going through the oil. If the water starts boiling it will break the pipe. You can use oil or petroleum if you want to remove heat from a hot substance.