Early SPOM without wheezeworts?

[FDru]

My map has not much algae and I kinda need the oxygen now. Is there a SPOM setup that doesn't need any fancy cooling mechanism? Something I could setup in a few minutes and worry about the heat later?

[rav]

i put some ice in my main water supply and use it as a small cooling loop for my rust deoxidizer. maybe it gives you an idea what you could do.
I let it loop until it reaches 20°c and then drop it back into the pool.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845525315

[Romeo Deluxe]

Never once used a wheezewort, no ice biome in my current colony. Took about 500 cycles before the printer gave me the first wheezewort seed. Also didn't have Aqua-tuner+Steam Turbine heat sink working until around cycle 900. I'm a slow learner. :P

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855009224
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855009436

Took about a 100 cycles for the cooling loop to really kick in. Inadvertently got lucky by running SPOM O2 pipes through 2 rooms below the setup. So that one heatsink polluted water pipes run through both SPOMs and the air flow rooms below. Now I have air conditioning, which is slowly changing temps in the base.

Until then you can try the Ice Maker & IceE Fan but really only need it in your farms. Use a few gold or copper tempshift plates to spread the cold in the farms, that really helps.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855010377

That screen is missing the tempshift plates I put in.

[Hedning]

All electrolyzer setups are going to require cooling unless you want your base to be 70°. Of course that doesn't mean it has to be fancy or that you can't just build it and worry about the heat later.

You can place an electrolyzer smack in the middle of your base. That's actually very power efficient because that means you'll only pump the h2. Unless your base is already struggling with heat this should not be a problem for several cycles. I suggest snaking your water pipe above the electrolyzer before going into it. That will slow down the heating (assuming your water is the same temperature as your base).

[Romeo Deluxe]

Just set the SPOM area outside your living quarters. You don't have worry about heat for 500 cycles. Warm air doesn't kill the dupes but might affect your farm(s), which is easy enough to spot cool.

[Prometheus]

Electrolyzer doesn't do minimum 70c anymore. It adds about 10c though. I have been using an electrolyzer for 100 cycles in my current base with no cooling set up and I am averaging about 26c in base. 22c in my farm. The air in the electrolyzer room has a rather wide range going from 42 at the lowest to 55 in the hottest.

I have 9 dupes and am getting about 4 dupes worth of oxygen from ferns though so the electrolyzer doesn't run constantly. If you are super worried just make sure your farm is insulated all around.

Heat is kind of weird and that will keep the majority out. Also put your exit vent for oxygen from the electrolyzer high up in your base and well away from your farm. Its heat will rise while still keeping your air pressure up.

[Angpaur]

Originally posted by Promethian:

Electrolyzer doesn't do minimum 70c anymore. It adds about 10c though.

What was the water temperature you were pumpimg to your electrolyzer?

[DDRMANIAC007]

Originally posted by Romeo Deluxe:

Never once used a wheezewort, no ice biome in my current colony. Took about 500 cycles before the printer gave me the first wheezewort seed. Also didn't have Aqua-tuner+Steam Turbine heat sink working until around cycle 900. I'm a slow learner. :P

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855009224
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855009436

Took about a 100 cycles for the cooling loop to really kick in. Inadvertently got lucky by running SPOM O2 pipes through 2 rooms below the setup. So that one heatsink polluted water pipes run through both SPOMs and the air flow rooms below. Now I have air conditioning, which is slowly changing temps in the base.

Until then you can try the Ice Maker & IceE Fan but really only need it in your farms. Use a few gold or copper tempshift plates to spread the cold in the farms, that really helps.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855010377

That screen is missing the tempshift plates I put in.

Is it worth doing such a big electrolyzer room? I just do an electrolyzer with a gas pump on either side with a 3 height room.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Promethian:

Electrolyzer doesn't do minimum 70c anymore. It adds about 10c though. I have been using an electrolyzer for 100 cycles in my current base with no cooling set up and I am averaging about 26c in base. 22c in my farm. The air in the electrolyzer room has a rather wide range going from 42 at the lowest to 55 in the hottest.

This is because other things in your base are absorbing the heat from the electrolyzer and cooling it down. The in-game description is correct. It outputs a minimum 70°. The change was from fixed 70° to minimum 70°.

You can get away with placing them in your base for a while. Natural tiles are up to a ton each. Regular constructed tiles are 200kg. And there are hundreds of tiles in your base. The electrolyzer however only outputs 1kg/s maximum. Also if you are feeding it cold water the water can absorb heat on the way to the electrolyzer.

[✨Nutkun7993✨]

Originally posted by Promethian:

Electrolyzer doesn't do minimum 70c anymore. It adds about 10c though. I have been using an electrolyzer for 100 cycles in my current base with no cooling set up and I am averaging about 26c in base. 22c in my farm. The air in the electrolyzer room has a rather wide range going from 42 at the lowest to 55 in the hottest.

I have 9 dupes and am getting about 4 dupes worth of oxygen from ferns though so the electrolyzer doesn't run constantly. If you are super worried just make sure your farm is insulated all around.

Heat is kind of weird and that will keep the majority out. Also put your exit vent for oxygen from the electrolyzer high up in your base and well away from your farm. Its heat will rise while still keeping your air pressure up.

It indeed outputs those gas in at least 70c but the mass of those gas compare to everything around them, they're so small they exchange all the heat and find average or middle ground temperature of surrounding mass quickly. Imagine tiny pack like 800g 70c gas vs 10kg oxygen at 23c around you base including tiles and buildings that combining a mass together would be like several ton at around 23c. It will take a while to see an average temperature to get a noticeable raise in number especially it's a lot slower when the Electrolyzer is not working full time due to max pressure.

[Romeo Deluxe]

Originally posted by ℜ | DDRMANIAC007:

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Is it worth doing such a big electrolyzer room? I just do an electrolyzer with a gas pump on either side with a 3 height room.

I would have to see a screenshot. I'm sure there are better designs than mine but I fit mine into the standard 4 high rooms throughout the base like the bedrooms, kitchen area.

This isn't a set design, I'm making it up as I go along.

The thing about using that much room is that it makes it real easy to fit gas & liquid pipes around there. Also I have two rooms with a cooling exchange and Gas Reservoir as buffers. Arguably could have crammed it into one room.

Also I made a backup SPOM whose main purpose is to raise the O2 pressure in the base to get any other gases out of the way, like CO2 or Hydrogen that escapes inside. SPOM#1 feeds about 15 Atmo suits and replaces what the dupes use but just that. Otherwise I would have 50g pressure insdie. SPOM#2 raises the base pressure to around 1500g+.

Your room is 1 electrolyzer and 2 pumps? Mine is 2 electrolyzers and 6 pumps. Grand total 4 electrolyzers, 12 pumps.

(I'll grab a wider area shot in a few minutes)

[Xuhybrid]

Set it up outside your base but don't insulate it. A single thermo regulator should be enough early on because the natural tiles can absorb a ton of heat..

[Romeo Deluxe]

So SPOM#2 is shut off with automation from another room where all that air dumped into. This is the whole SPOM & Hydrogen Gens area. None of this was done right away! This is over about 500 cycles and is subject to further changes...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855869889

Liquid cooling loop
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855870298

The one room, that became two rooms, that became where I cool the SPOM air
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855871188

Wide shot of the gas piping. You can just see Atmo suit stations on the bottom and on the right side.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855870590

I could do some more compacting of the area but I got other problems right now. :)

[IdealPoint]

All I do until I get to a point where I want to use advanced cooling is pump the oxygen from the electrolyzer room on the same tiles as the water supply to the electrolyzers. Water has much higher density, so way before the oxygen gets to the vents it is cooled down to the temp of the water supply. Very easy. Worry about cooling the electrolyzers in a few hundred cycles when you have better tech and power availability.