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ForwarD Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:18pm
Metal ore deficit (late game)
Have only 44t of all Raw Metals while in comparison only Refined Iron 59t.

Was thinking about some big conveyors to build and not really have enough raw metal.

Should I build them just from Steel? What do you in late game do?

With current tech I can bring from space mission 700kg of Copper Ore for cost 1706 kg peroleum + oxidizer (30 000 km). Or 460kg of Steel + 640kg of Copper + 720kg of Glass for same price. from another asteroid. Isoresine and Fullerene inputs are about the same. So copper ore delivery sounds not very attractive.

Or there are other source of raw metals I overlooked?
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fractalgem Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:21pm 
Well if you get almost as much copper from the second source, and it also gives you quite a bit of steel, then use the second source?

I don't know about a good source of unrefined metal late game. I was kinda planning to use steel for everything applicable in the long run, since iron falls from the sky and I can wranch stuff for egg shells, plus I can probably feed a sage hatch for coal or something...

Last edited by fractalgem; Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:21pm
ForwarD Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by fractalgem:
Well if you get almost as much copper from the second source, and it also gives you quite a bit of steel, then use the second source?

I don't know about a good source of unrefined metal late game. I was kinda planning to use steel for everything applicable in the long run, since iron falls from the sky and I can wranch stuff for egg shells, plus I can probably feed a sage hatch for coal or something...

It's refined Copper at second destination and I need raw ore for conveyors. Probably Steel is a way to go now.
Last edited by ForwarD; Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:29pm
Jarcionek Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:38pm 
There are 4 types of meteor showers - regolith, iron, copper ore and gold amalgam. You can use last two for conveyors and iron can be refined into steel that can be also used for conveyors. So 75% of meteor showers are bringing you the materials you need.

Plus obviously you get things from rockets. I can see that you are using 2 cargo modules. Note that those asteroids probably don't replenish fast enough to have the rocket flying to one non-stop. If you keep doing this, eventually it will start bringing less than 2 tons of materials, so you will have to change the destination anyway.

To be honest, you shouldn't lack those resources in the long run. Change the speed to maximum, do a bit more of idling rather than actively playing and eventually you will get all you need.
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ForwarD Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by Jarcionek:
There are 4 types of meteor showers - regolith, iron, copper ore and gold amalgam. You can use last two for conveyors and iron can be refined into steel that can be also used for conveyors. So 75% of meteor showers are bringing you the materials you need.

Plus obviously you get things from rockets. I can see that you are using 2 cargo modules. Note that those asteroids probably don't replenish fast enough to have the rocket flying to one non-stop. If you keep doing this, eventually it will start bringing less than 2 tons of materials, so you will have to change the destination anyway.

To be honest, you shouldn't lack those resources in the long run. Change the speed to maximum, do a bit more of idling rather than actively playing and eventually you will get all you need.

Already collecting metals from meteor showers (from small territory though yet). Can't really play with maximum speed for me on big base it lags like hell. But ok, I will slowly get my ore. I was just thinking maybe some another or easier way.
fluxtorrent Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:51pm 
Another consideration is a mod, there is a mod that allows you to make things that normally require unrefined ore be able to be made with refined material.

i use it personally because it never made sense to me that some things cant be made with a better metal lol
Jarcionek Aug 20, 2019 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by ForwarD:
Already collecting metals from meteor showers (from small territory though yet).

You might have quite a lot of resources buried under the regolith there.
SamuraiJones Aug 20, 2019 @ 5:37pm 
I stopped smelting anything but steel and tungsten a long time ago. Refined metals literally rain from the sky, but metals ores are gone as soon as you've used them up.

44 tons is alot though. I'd just go ahead and start using it, and keep the space missions going if you start to run out.

Also, you can replace ugly wires with conductive ones (you've probably alot of lead lying around). That can free up lots of unsmelted ore.
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custume Aug 20, 2019 @ 6:53pm 
have you checked the corners you can have a metal volcano, I think there is 3 types of them, iron, cooper, gold
fractalgem Aug 20, 2019 @ 7:00pm 
Originally posted by custume:
have you checked the corners you can have a metal volcano, I think there is 3 types of them, iron, cooper, gold
those output refined metal. An iron one would be useful for op tho, because steel...
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