Oxygen Not Included

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Grossout Oct 1, 2019 @ 6:19am
Morale requirements when playing hardest settings?
I am playing the hardest settings and my duplicate morale is 34, morale requirement 15 and she is constantly having stress reactions when hit 100%.

What is up with that?

Soon Im gonna whack that dupe.
Originally posted by madcow:
Lots of things cause stress, low morale is one of them but not an issue in this case.

https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Stress
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madcow Oct 1, 2019 @ 6:41am 
Lots of things cause stress, low morale is one of them but not an issue in this case.

https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Stress
snuggleform Oct 1, 2019 @ 8:28am 
The hardest difficulty does quite a few things; one of them is they just get a baseline +20% or so stress per day i.e. even if you did absolutely nothing their mood just goes down, and this compounds when you get things like ear popping from over pressure, walking through puddles of water, etc. You can click on a dupe and hover over some of the info in their panel to see this; I think it comes from something called like "draconian" mood.
Grossout Oct 1, 2019 @ 9:19am 
Oh I see, Thanks for clarifying this. For some reason I thought the stress was all about the moral and moral requirement and buffs like soggy feet would affect the morale.

I have never played with the hardest settings before so I have not really payed attention to it.
Last edited by Grossout; Oct 1, 2019 @ 9:20am
snuggleform Oct 1, 2019 @ 9:31am 
Yeah hover over the "morale" category in the dupe info, you'll see a list of things affecting their moods. Positive numbers are bad since it means they are accumulating stress.

There are so many things - if they have low oxygen they actually get morale debuff, hotter than comfortable, colder than comfortable, etc etc etc. You could read the wikipedia if you want to but a quick way to see what's affecting your particular dupes in game is to hover above the morale number in the dupe info panel.

On harder difficulties you may want to invest in a massage table or two (in fact, might as well make a proper massage room using the room overlay to see what the requirements for that are) whereas on normal difficulties you would never think about it. I sure never thought about stress until I dipped my toes into the highest difficulty and then I learned the hard way.

another small tip to help highly stressed dupes is to stick them in the neural vacillators you find scattered about; one of the 4 traits they can acquire is one that reduces stress. Yes it can take a while to get the right trait but it's just a small tool to help deal with stress if you have that option available.
Last edited by snuggleform; Oct 1, 2019 @ 10:04am
Tsuanli Oct 1, 2019 @ 10:19am 
Anything beyond +2 morale is useless (2 more than requirement). That gives you a whopping +-0% stress per day. If you have ANY less morale you'll actually gain stress constantly.

Like wcs150 wrote there are a lot of ways to gain stress but I speak with experience. You don't actually need massage tables at all because it's always one of the 3 reasons why your dupes gain stress:

1. 99% likely: Puddles are your worst enemy. NEVER leave them alive. Eliminate puddles immediately when you notice them.

2. 0,9% likely: Overpressure. Easy to deal with once you notice the area.

3. 0,1% likely: Low morale. You can kinda keep stress low even with +0 or +1 morale as long as dupes have to never deal with 1. or 2. stress sources.

Actually there's also 4. which is mourning for dead. You can cancel the debuff by building gravestone but it's usually just best to give up when things start to go downhill.
Last edited by Tsuanli; Oct 1, 2019 @ 10:30am
snuggleform Oct 1, 2019 @ 10:37am 
I speak with expereince too, yes it's a good idea to have 1 or 2 massage tables on the highest difficulty setting. It's not going to kill you, it's literally 1 or 2 massage tables in an enclosed room. Oh no, is that such a burden?
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