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Jack Sep 25, 2019 @ 8:41am
I'm confuse about transformer and conductive wire.
Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with setting up transformer can someone please teach me?

The conductive wire can carry only 2kw of power, while
Power Transformer have Power capacity of 1000 J so can't use with conductive wire.
Large Power Transformer have Power capacity of 4000 J (it is to act as a valve and prevent Wires from drawing more than 4 kW.)

So if I set up Conductive Wire with Large Power Transformer, there is still chance of it drawing more than 2kw if I set it to too many equipment, resulting in overload.
But then what is the use of 4kw, since I would rather have it at 2kw to prevent my Conductive wire from over load, I also can't connect 2 set of conductive wire to the output side of the large power transformer(one line go up and another line go down) with 2kw each, since it will combine the power of the wire since it cannot split.
What is the use of the extra 2kw of the large power transformer use for???
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jballar Sep 25, 2019 @ 9:10am 
I was wondering the same thing. Why have a transformer that goes to 4kw is there is no wire that is that much.

What I do is use the large transformer and make sure that the max load on that line is 2kw. If you set up a good power spine, then you can have multiple transformers. My power spine runs from the top to the bottom of the map.
✨Nutkun7993✨ Sep 25, 2019 @ 9:40am 
I don't have an answer to that as well.

And I'm kinda getting the dejavu feeling out of this thread.
Coriolis Sep 25, 2019 @ 9:44am 
Isn't the idea you'd need 2x small transformers to feed the 2kw wire? Just like what we do with with Regular MAINS Feeds to houses? Theres usually 3-5 transformers per leg to house, each of them handling a share of the load, so one or two can die, without usually killing the whole neighbourhood.
Hedning Sep 25, 2019 @ 11:17am 
The main point of any transformer in this game is to split your power into segments. For the longest time no transformer actually limited output, acting as a battery and supplying unlimited power for as long as their battery lasted. This was changed recently to make them easier to use, however the main function is still to split your grid, not to limit power.

The small transformer should now limit power draw to 1000W, meaning in the early game you can add things to your cables willy-nilly and the transformer will sort things out for you. Later you may want to start using the large transformer. The large transformer is more efficient than 2 small ones, but as a tradeoff you need to be a bit smarter adding things. I often have 5kW or more maximum draw. The key is to add things that are never or unlikely to be on at the same time.
The Tempted Man Sep 25, 2019 @ 2:38pm 
There's none, it's an oversight. Unless you use mods to increase the wattage of cables.
Last edited by The Tempted Man; Sep 25, 2019 @ 2:38pm
Cyant [HOBO] Sep 25, 2019 @ 5:32pm 
You do realize you can use Heavy wire -> Large Transformer IN -> Large Transformer OUT -> Heavy wire -> 4 Small transformer in -> then out to 4 distinct power grids
Jack Sep 25, 2019 @ 8:22pm 
But then it would seems like the Large power transformer doesn't work as intended. Since
"A Large Power Transformer is intended to separate two circuits to protect the circuit at output side from overload damage. It works as a buffer between generators and primary circuits."
but it can't "protect the circuit at output side from overload damage".

For it to be able to actually "protect the circuit at output side from overload damage", it should have same wattage as the wire itself so as to not overload it. From Hedning set up I also doing that but then the set up is still "to add things that are never or unlikely to be on at the same time." It would mean that we all want the power usage never to exceed what the wire can carry so as not to get damage.

@Cyant [HOBO] why set as
Heavy wire -> Large Transformer IN -> Large Transformer OUT -> Heavy wire -> 4 Small transformer in -> then out to 4 distinct power grids?
Isn't
Heavy wire -> 4 Small transformer in -> then out to 4 distinct power grids
working the same way?
Last edited by Jack; Sep 25, 2019 @ 8:22pm
SakuraKoi Sep 25, 2019 @ 9:01pm 
It's made to not be made easy which is obviously an affront to science
fluxtorrent Sep 25, 2019 @ 10:16pm 
Originally posted by Jack:
But then it would seems like the Large power transformer doesn't work as intended. Since
"A Large Power Transformer is intended to separate two circuits to protect the circuit at output side from overload damage. It works as a buffer between generators and primary circuits."
but it can't "protect the circuit at output side from overload damage".

For it to be able to actually "protect the circuit at output side from overload damage", it should have same wattage as the wire itself so as to not overload it. From Hedning set up I also doing that but then the set up is still "to add things that are never or unlikely to be on at the same time." It would mean that we all want the power usage never to exceed what the wire can carry so as not to get damage.

@Cyant [HOBO] why set as
Heavy wire -> Large Transformer IN -> Large Transformer OUT -> Heavy wire -> 4 Small transformer in -> then out to 4 distinct power grids?
Isn't
Heavy wire -> 4 Small transformer in -> then out to 4 distinct power grids
working the same way?
Not if you want more transformers than a heavywatt wire on the main can handle normally.

Transformers don't negate the need to use appropriate gauge wire for your circuit load. If you want to use 4k on the large transformer (which is perfectly fine to do and perfectly viable) you use heavy watt wire.

If you only want to use conductive wire, don't put more on the circuit than 2k. it's not even the limited rocket science we have in this game.

There are all sorts of things that can overload a circuit after the transformer. Pretending its supposed to fix that is only going to get you into trouble. It splits off the line, thats it.
Last edited by fluxtorrent; Sep 25, 2019 @ 10:29pm
Jack Sep 26, 2019 @ 12:58am 
ok thank you very much ^^
SixStringNinja Jan 17, 2023 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Jack:
Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with setting up transformer can someone please teach me?

The conductive wire can carry only 2kw of power, while
Power Transformer have Power capacity of 1000 J so can't use with conductive wire.
Large Power Transformer have Power capacity of 4000 J (it is to act as a valve and prevent Wires from drawing more than 4 kW.)

So if I set up Conductive Wire with Large Power Transformer, there is still chance of it drawing more than 2kw if I set it to too many equipment, resulting in overload.
But then what is the use of 4kw, since I would rather have it at 2kw to prevent my Conductive wire from over load, I also can't connect 2 set of conductive wire to the output side of the large power transformer(one line go up and another line go down) with 2kw each, since it will combine the power of the wire since it cannot split.
What is the use of the extra 2kw of the large power transformer use for???


I saw a tutorial on this that pointed out that the large transformer does not hold 4kW, it holds 4kJ. It acts like a battery with a 4kJ limit. It does however have a specific quality in its statistic block that says "maximum safe wattage" which is set at 2kW so that it functions for conductive wire
AlexMBrennan Jan 17, 2023 @ 12:14pm 
A 3 year necro, for this?

I saw a tutorial on this that pointed out that the large transformer does not hold 4kW, it holds 4kJ. It acts like a battery with a 4kJ limit. It does however have a specific quality in its statistic block that says "maximum safe wattage" which is set at 2kW so that it functions for conductive wire
While it is possible that you have heard this you are unfortunately wrong. The fact that large transformers contain an internal battery does not change the fact that they will overload a 2kW wire.
Last edited by AlexMBrennan; Jan 17, 2023 @ 12:15pm
Rusky have sucked Jan 17, 2023 @ 3:03pm 
Use power transformers to transfer power from heavi-watt wire circuits to wire (one transformer) or conductive wire circuits (two transformers in parallel).
Use large power transformers to transfer power from heavi-watt conductive wire circuits to heavi-watt wire circuits (5 transformers in parallel).
Power cicuits segments can hold only concurent load which correspons to wire type max load.
You also can connect load source which draw more power than transformer able to transfer. In said case load source will use power difference from batteries connected on load side and from transformer itself. As example, connect metal refinery together with jumbo battery via power transformer (small), refinery will use 1000W from transformer and 200W from battery and from internal transformers battery (1000J) if jumbo battery discharged.

TL:DR
Small trans for 20kW to 1-2kW split
Large trans for 50kW to 20kW split

P.S. With solar panels use 1-2kW to 20kW(50kW)
P.P.S. more necrotopics to the necrotopics god
Last edited by Rusky have sucked; Jan 18, 2023 @ 3:14am
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