any simple way to explain how tempshift plates works!?

[Makadi]

I have done some searchs but still can't understand how tempshift plates works plz make it simple

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

They start at a set temp depending on material. They slowly exchange heat/cold with the enviroment until their temperature is the same as the surrounding air and the effect ends.

[Mechanoid]

Any building that is larger than 1 tile calculates its temperature change based on every tile it touches. A 4x3 building will calculate its temperature change based on the matter in those 12 squares.

Prior to the introduction of tempshift plates, people were using wire and pipe bridges to create a heat exchangers, because these buildings could be placed through insulated walls (or walls made of insulating matter) Even if the building broke from high temperatures, the building would still transfer heat as long as it didn't completely melt. The developers recognized this and chose to make an official building for this purpose.

Of course the mass of the plate itself is important (800 kilograms) but the real feature is the + shaped or 3x3 square of tiles the plate can equalize the temperatures of.

Normally, a gas like chlorine or carbon dioxide has very poor heat transmission. Imagine a 3x3 square, with very hot hydrogen at the top, chlorine in the middle, and cold CO2 at the bottom. Very hot hydrogen will remain hot, because the chlorine is an insulator gas. The thermal shift plate allows the space to be bridged directly between the hydrogen and CO2, immediately exchanging their temperature differences with the plate, and then the plate with all 3 gasses.
Very quickly (or slowly, depending on plate material) that 3x3 square will equalize to the averaged temperature of the 3 gasses.

[EpicMadness]

tempshift plates, when simply put, it buffers and balances the temperature within a 3x3zone centering itself.


i have done tests on tempshift plates under debug mode.

tempshift plates only interacts with tiles, solid, liquid and gas blocks within it's 3x3 zone.
tempshift plates cannot transfer heat to other thermal shift plates. (tested under vacuum)
tempshift plates does not interact with buildings. (tested under vacuum)

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

Originally posted by EpicMadness:

tempshift plates cannot transfer heat to other thermal shift plates. (tested under vacuum)

They don't do that "directly" but IMO you need to consider that if not under vacuum they should indirectly exchange temp with other plates thorugh the gases, so that the "air" is like a chainlink to propagate temperature change between adjacent plates.

Does this sound right to you?

[!?!]

Originally posted by Jost Amman:

Originally posted by EpicMadness:

tempshift plates cannot transfer heat to other thermal shift plates. (tested under vacuum)

They don't do that "directly" but IMO you need to consider that if not under vacuum they should indirectly exchange temp with other plates thorugh the gases, so that the "air" is like a chainlink to propagate temperature change between adjacent plates.

Does this sound right to you?

Sounds like they're no better than air tiles then.

[EpicMadness]

Originally posted by Jost Amman:

Originally posted by EpicMadness:

tempshift plates cannot transfer heat to other thermal shift plates. (tested under vacuum)

They don't do that "directly" but IMO you need to consider that if not under vacuum they should indirectly exchange temp with other plates thorugh the gases, so that the "air" is like a chainlink to propagate temperature change between adjacent plates.

Does this sound right to you?

yes thats exactly how it works, and it works best under liquid or when adjacent to metal tiles.

Originally posted by chris:

Originally posted by Jost Amman:

They don't do that "directly" but IMO you need to consider that if not under vacuum they should indirectly exchange temp with other plates thorugh the gases, so that the "air" is like a chainlink to propagate temperature change between adjacent plates.

Does this sound right to you?

Sounds like they're no better than air tiles then.

its actually different as it can simultaneously transfer heat across 9tiles around it in a 3x3 format, so one tempshift plate can affect all 9tiles and transfer heat to other tempshift plates using at least 3~6 tiles as reference points.

[!?!]

Originally posted by EpicMadness:

its actually different as it can simultaneously transfer heat across 9tiles around it in a 3x3 format, so one tempshift plate can affect all 9tiles and transfer heat to other tempshift plates using at least 3~6 tiles as reference points.

No gas comes anywhere close to the thermal conductivity of tungsten (60) or even diamond (80).

Oxygen has 0.024 and the best bet is hydrogen with 0.168, triple that still doesn't even add up to 1.
If they can't interact with each other, that's a massive loss of effectivity.

[EpicMadness]

Originally posted by chris:

Originally posted by EpicMadness:

its actually different as it can simultaneously transfer heat across 9tiles around it in a 3x3 format, so one tempshift plate can affect all 9tiles and transfer heat to other tempshift plates using at least 3~6 tiles as reference points.

No gas comes anywhere close to the thermal conductivity of tungsten (60) or even diamond (80).

Oxygen has 0.024 and the best bet is hydrogen with 0.168, triple that still doesn't even add up to 1.
If they can't interact with each other, that's a massive loss of effectivity.

while the gas themselves won't be conducting faster than it's own thermal conductivity, a single tempshift plate could distribute to 9 other tiles simultaneously, this makes it somewhat more efficient than a single regular tile.
while prior to the latest change in thermal conductivity, tempshift plates can interact with solid tiles, thus combining it with metal tiles it can rapidly spread heat with the metal tile as source. think of it as one metal tile being able to disperse heat to up to 8 air tiles simultaneously instead of just 4.


while as of the latest thermal conductivity update, your worries are no longer! even the least thermally conductive gas can become somewhat ridiculous with a single tempshift plate.

[TheDuckster]

Originally posted by EpicMadness:

Originally posted by chris:

No gas comes anywhere close to the thermal conductivity of tungsten (60) or even diamond (80).

Oxygen has 0.024 and the best bet is hydrogen with 0.168, triple that still doesn't even add up to 1.
If they can't interact with each other, that's a massive loss of effectivity.

while the gas themselves won't be conducting faster than it's own thermal conductivity, a single tempshift plate could distribute to 9 other tiles simultaneously, this makes it somewhat more efficient than a single regular tile.
while prior to the latest change in thermal conductivity, tempshift plates can interact with solid tiles, thus combining it with metal tiles it can rapidly spread heat with the metal tile as source. think of it as one metal tile being able to disperse heat to up to 8 air tiles simultaneously instead of just 4.


while as of the latest thermal conductivity update, your worries are no longer! even the least thermally conductive gas can become somewhat ridiculous with a single tempshift plate.

Truth is even this dont seem necessary anymore if you only have a few buildings to cool, since the new update works between buildings and gases too. My once-heavily throttled (200g/s) gold thermo regulator, which i put in the chlorine biome and my dups got too busy to make tempshift plates for them, works really well without the throttling and plates.

[gepard28]

Simple if you have air there a cool and a heat air block, but do not mix fast, plates make it go faster, like a metal plate get hot in the one side it let the heat go to the other side after some time.