how do you get germs out of clean water?

[Woundem]

I was filtering water from my bathrooms and the clean water has germs in it. What to do ?

Thanks!!

[Elidrin]

The food poisoning germ seems to pass thru the water purifier with ease :(

That said that particular germ will die in clean water over time. I took to venting mine into showers and toilets. Basically treating it like grey water in an RV.

One thing I just learned is that if you feed it to algae the food poisoning germs become airborne (Binding to the oxygen produced)and spread thru your base very quickly. Talk about wanting to cry. The good news is it doesn't seem to want to survive in the air. But that can't be healthy.

In addition the airborne food poisoning didn't seem to stick to surfaces, I believe it becomes a non-threat once in the air. But the disease overlay becomes a mess to look at.

All in all I think the food poisoning not being removed from the water is to get us onto farmed food quickly. I sadly had a meltdown before I could test agroculture to see what happens with the infected water.

My bigger concern was that I was using a closed loop for my toilets and shower and the pipes filled up and shut down my toilets :( Thus my meltdown.

[Zorlond]

Heat.

Throw a Tepidizer in your water supply with a temperature swiitch on it. Have it keep the water up around 120F (about 50C) and the germs will start dying off like gangbusters. Which is, frankly, wrong, but it's how the game is set up atm. It really shouldn't be killing the germs until near 212F, 100C.

[Thorin]

Depend on germ, most stuff dont like anything over 40C, some resilient stuff can survive near boiling temperatures. We need lot more type of germs, than the current two.

[The Queen Salis]

food poisoning germ is supposed to die above 75^C according to help texts. I hadn't tested it, but I assume the closer to 75, the quicker it dies off.

[Lord Poodle Moth]

yea germs should start dieing around 140F or 60C. Boiling not needed to kill them, but it does it faster, but good luck washing your hands with that boiling water. Most Biological contaiminantes love between 70F and 120F, ie 40C is perfect breeding ground for germs thorin.

[Led Jedi]

Originally posted by Elidrin:

The food poisoning germ seems to pass thru the water purifier with ease :(

My bigger concern was that I was using a closed loop for my toilets and shower and the pipes filled up and shut down my toilets :( Thus my meltdown.

I used to worry about using a closed loop until i figured out that I can just dump the output from my water filter directly into the reservoir via a liquid vent. So clean water is pumped from my main water pool (and i take lots of precautions to keep it clean) and water is pumped to showers, toilets, carbon skimmer, and my hydroponic farm. Waste water from toilets, showers and simmers all go to my filtration unit... clean output is then run back to the main water reserve.

I used to try to recycle clean water from the purifier back to the toilets in a closed loop but you get more water back from that system than you put into it (presumably because of urine) so i always had to have a carefully monitored liquid valve dumping water out of the system or it would get out of balance.... With the configuration above you always had clean water going in and waste pipes are almost always empty because they're filtered immediately.

I also wall-up my water reserves with tile to keep them well contained. This also helps to prevent germ contamination. My biggest problem is if someone gets traps and "makes a mess" i need to make sure that water is moped and dumped into a separate reservoir for contaminated supply asap.

If you tend to get a lot of polluted water you can just put a 2nd pump in there and feed it into your waste water line to put it back into circulation.

They do need a water sterilizer though... like a UV sterilizer would be ideal.

[Wolfbiter]

I have three water purifiers and that's not getting rid of the worms. They're even hooked up to their own power source due to circuit overloading. Feels bad man.

[Varenvel The Festive Dinosaur]

Originally posted by Zorlond:

Heat.

Throw a Tepidizer in your water supply with a temperature swiitch on it. Have it keep the water up around 120F (about 50C) and the germs will start dying off like gangbusters. Which is, frankly, wrong, but it's how the game is set up atm. It really shouldn't be killing the germs until near 212F, 100C.

depends on germs , most die in tempratures around 50 , and most if not all die at 90 but it all depends


Hyperthermophile (60 degrees C and upwards)

Thermophile (optimal growth between 45 and 122 degrees)

Mesophile (20 and 45 degrees C)

Psychrotrophs (will survive at 0 degrees C, but prefer mesophilic temperature

Psychrophiles (-15 and 10 degrees C or lower)

most of them kills at 68 -72 some at 90 degrees next below you depending on d-value.


100-120 and higher is mostly to kill spores , not bacteria tho it is also as good


i still remember time when baking cakes with eggs you had to put them in hot water for 1-3 seconds to "kill salmonella" living on the shell of egg

[Brak]

There is no need to do such things.There is a easier way to remove most of germs without too much planification (and energy)by placing clean water in Caustic Biome(the one who has chlorine and hidrogen ,you know).Arround 36-40ºC kill most germs.
Tips.1-Remember to NOT isolate the whole room,water must exchange heat with enviroment
2-Dont recomend to put a putcher pump in this room,just create another room and pump the water in the room where you have placed putcher pump.
3-if you manage to put some chroline gas into the room,it will do the job faster.Note that this tip is not necesary to kill germs and you can just ignore it if you find it too dificult.

[Bacon Wizard]

Originally posted by Zorlond:

Heat.

Throw a Tepidizer in your water supply with a temperature swiitch on it. Have it keep the water up around 120F (about 50C) and the germs will start dying off like gangbusters. Which is, frankly, wrong, but it's how the game is set up atm. It really shouldn't be killing the germs until near 212F, 100C.

Wrong, 60C is more than enough to kill bad bacteria

[ratgirl34]

I've been playing around with using aquatuners to cool my clean water, while dropping polluted water onto them for cooling the auratuners. The heat from the aquatuner boils the water into steam which condenses into clean germ free water. My plan is to eventually put the steam generator on top of the aquatuner room so that my water purification is also generating me power.

So far I have been running into some issues... possibly because I'm trying to cool a steam geyser using this method and those suckers are HOT. But I have been producing just enough cool water to keep my base going, so that's something lol

[Strygald]

Originally posted by ratgirl34:

So far I have been running into some issues... possibly because I'm trying to cool a steam geyser using this method and those suckers are HOT. But I have been producing just enough cool water to keep my base going, so that's something lol

What kind of issues? i'm guessing you're ending up with a lot of heat build-up in the whole area around the Thermal Aquatuner.

What i've decided is that since a Steam geyser essentially 'creates' heat you need to balance it with a Thermo-nullifier which essentially 'destroys' heat(or use a bucket-load of Wheezeworts for the same effect).

If the water is still too hot.. well you can chain together multiple Thermal Aquatuners to cool the water down more before it enters your base.

[ratgirl34]

Originally posted by cloven0angel:

Originally posted by ratgirl34:

So far I have been running into some issues... possibly because I'm trying to cool a steam geyser using this method and those suckers are HOT. But I have been producing just enough cool water to keep my base going, so that's something lol

What kind of issues? i'm guessing you're ending up with a lot of heat build-up in the whole area around the Thermal Aquatuner.

What i've decided is that since a Steam geyser essentially 'creates' heat you need to balance it with a Thermo-nullifier which essentially 'destroys' heat(or use a bucket-load of Wheezeworts for the same effect).

If the water is still too hot.. well you can chain together multiple Thermal Aquatuners to cool the water down more before it enters your base.

I have problems with planning things out, and it is a 'plan ahead' sort of game. So a good number of the issues are me failing to account for stuff.

Heat I contained with abyssalite insulated tiles. I have the geyser 'tank' directly next to the cooling/purification tank, which was right next to the tank for cold water and connected by an airflow tile. If you are picturing this correctly, you probably realise I forgot to account for the simple and painfully obvious fact that steam is hot. But, since I was determined to use only two aquatuners (which I did know wouldn't be enough on their own) I had temperature control in there to essentially put all water that was above the set temperature to be run through the tuners again... By putting it back into the geyser tank. Which worked somewhat because the geyser was submerged most of the time. Except when the steam went through.

I tried a thermo nullifier once, I think I used it wrong though? I ran the water pipes behind it but it only cooled by enough when the water trickled through.

I'm working on some revisions... I can't seem to figure out how to make water cool without the aquatuners unless I'm misunderstanding some of the guides on how to do it. Neither wheezewort, waterfalls, or a combination of the two seem to do anything.

[Senatic]

just mine some bleach stone and put it in a container under water, doesn't have to be harder than that.

[sidfu1]

dont worry about the germs in the clean water build the ore purifer and feed it clorine and place them both directions so when they pull waer for food or plant they clean it.