Air scrubber oxygen output question.

[Cluuderoni pizza]

The purpose of the air scrubber is to clean the air from carbon dioxide by simply removing it, but does it remove the oxygen as well?

Carbon dioxide being CO2 and oxygen being O2, would the air scrubber only remove the C part, not taking any oxygen, or would it remove the whole thing (CO2) oxygen included?

If it is true that it does not remove any oxygen could you technically create a certain amount of oxygen in a room with some colonist wihout any need to create more as you are simply cleaning the oxygen and reusing it with the air scrubber.

Thanks for any help. If I make myself unclear I could try and explain it better.

Edit: So I found out theres a debug menu and ran some tests. I filled a room with carbon dioxide and let a air scrubber run for some cycles. Eventually the room was just vacuum meaning that it does take both C and O2 in the process. Shame.

[RonEmpire]

ive wondered about this as well.

but air scrubber uses water- so it could just only take the C. shouldn't take away the oxygen.

[RonEmpire]

according to the wikki- it takes all of the carbon dioxide and returns polluted water.

[PhailRaptor]

At present, there is nothing in the game that directly converts CO2 into O2, by any process.

You would have to take the P-H2O from the Air Scrubber, send it through the Water Purifier to make Clean H20 (costing sand and electricity), then split that H20 in an Electrolyzer to make H2 and O2 (again costing electricity).

[Cluuderoni pizza]

Originally posted by PhailRaptor:

At present, there is nothing in the game that directly converts CO2 into O2, by any process.

You would have to take the P-H2O from the Air Scrubber, send it through the Water Purifier to make Clean H20 (costing sand and electricity), then split that H20 in an Electrolyzer to make H2 and O2 (again costing electricity).

So in that case the oxygen just vanishes in the system?
Air scrubber process: CO2 + H2O = P-H2O you just end up losing that oxygen as you try to clean the carbon dioxide.

Say you have a room with a air scrubber, purifier, electricity ect ect and you have a limit amount of water, oxygen and carbon dioxide. As your colonists use that oxygen over time and create carbon dioxide it will in turn be cleaned by the air scrubber. The air scrubber uses clean water which will then become polluted which you can then clean with the water purifier. And then ofcourse use the electrolyzer to create new oxygen. But technically you would only be able to run this system a limited time until you ran out of water. Since oxygen is lost during the air scrubber process (as I showed above) you have to use water to create oxygen. But you have no way of creating more water in this system.

So essentially if the air scrubber didn't remove oxygen from the air you could create a certain amount of oxygen which you would recycle over and over again since you can recycle the water by pulliting it and then cleaning it. The only resources you put into the system that you wouldnt get back would be electricity (if you dont look at heat) and sand.

If you had a base which the only oxygen source would Algae Deoxydizer you would eventually hit max air pressure since your colonists ofcourse turn oxygen into carbon dioxide. So you have to in some way clean the carbon dioxide. Wether you use the air scrubber or algae terrarium as example you'll still need water. Water which will eventually run out.

[The Queen Salis]

unless you tame a geyser

[PhailRaptor]

Once you get a Steam Geyser, the only issue relating to Water is making sure the temperature of your base doesn't get too high. At that point, water is practically an infinite resource. And there are usually upwards of 12 Steam Geysers scattered around the entire world map.

[AquaX]

To prevent water and base overheat, build hydrogen cooling sys or use wheezewort if they are not broken on that seed world.

My base is running 4 hydrogen cooling sys: 1 for water pool, 1 for Base, 1 for mealwood farm and 1 for wheat farm. I am running off of 4 gas geyser and once in a while 2 hydrogen gens.

Note my worts were either bugged or something since they can't cool jack squat.

Also I think air scrubber do release o2, though much less than the amt of co2 it takes in. Like at max, it takes in 300 and it out puts like 50g o2.

[Cluuderoni pizza]

Thanks. This clears up a lot of things.

Originally posted by AquaX:

To prevent water and base overheat, build hydrogen cooling sys or use wheezewort if they are not broken on that seed world.

My base is running 4 hydrogen cooling sys: 1 for water pool, 1 for Base, 1 for mealwood farm and 1 for wheat farm. I am running off of 4 gas geyser and once in a while 2 hydrogen gens.

Note my worts were either bugged or something since they can't cool jack squat.

Also I think air scrubber do release o2, though much less than the amt of co2 it takes in. Like at max, it takes in 300 and it out puts like 50g o2.

Could you maybe explain how a hydrogen coolant system works? Could you link to some tutorial? You've made me very curious

[AquaX]

Tutorial and videos I do not think there are any. This is a veteran player bypass during the thermal update for prolong colony play since ur base heats up like crazy then and dev did not give us a water cooling machine.

U create a line of air pipes made of granite over any and all tiles u want to cool. Take the hydrogen and send it through that line after it goes through several thermal regulators. The cooled hydrogen will transfer out of the granite air pipes and cool the surrounding area a bit. Also cooled gases tend to sink down so build it a bit above ur living quarters.

Note this system is dumb easy to make if u got an open o2 system in ur base. Look at my screenshots in my profile to see how I did mine.

[Cluuderoni pizza]

Originally posted by AquaX:

Tutorial and videos I do not think there are any. This is a veteran player design during the thermal update for prolong colony play since ur base heats up like crazy then.

U create a line of air pipes made of granite over any and all tiles u want to cool. Take the hydrogen and send it through that line after it goes through several thermal regulators. The cooled hydrogen will transfer out of the granite air pipes and cool the surrounding area a bit. Also cooled gases tend to sink down so build it a bit above ur living quarters.

Note this system is dumb easy to make if u got an open o2 system in ur base. Look at my screenshots in my profile to see how I did mine.

Ah thank you. I see on your screenshots, it's very impressive. My base has a open o2 system as well but luckily no need for a coolant system like yours since I have a cold biom exactly next to my base which cools it off. On the otherhand I have yet to crack open geyser since the base is still fairly new and I'm new to the game.

[AquaX]

Hoho, geysers cook bases since the water can range 40-90 degrees. 9/10 it's the upper ranges. Give it a few double digit cycles and ur base starts cooking.

Also, cold biome only works properly if u leave the snow and ice in it. Once u extract all of it, the biome cools jack. Took me 50ish cycles to drop 5 degrees after I yanked all ice, polluted/clean ice.

Also this sys is pwr hungry. Minimum u need 2 thermal regs, and maybe 1 water pump.

[Cluuderoni pizza]

Why'd you pull out all of the ice if the steam geysers guarantee infinite water? You could have your base seperate from the ice biom. As you base heats up you have the hydrogen coolant system running but instead of using thermoregs you move the pipes into the ice biom to cool the gas. Just a thought

[AquaX]

Originally posted by Cluuderoni pizza:

Why'd you pull out all of the ice if the steam geysers guarantee infinite water? You could have your base seperate from the ice biom. As you base heats up you have the hydrogen coolant system running but instead of using thermoregs you move the pipes into the ice biom to cool the gas. Just a thought

I was coverting an entire section of my ice biome to a sleet wheat farm. Turns out, it's the cold materials in it that is acting as the heat sink. The biome itself cools but at an unbelievable slow rate.
I tried that with water to but I did the same thing and I didn't know it at the time.

The wheat were stuck at around 10-15 and the drop was so low, I found it faster building a hydrogen cooling sys and piping it into that area to cool it. It worked and temp dropped to around -10-5. Also it doesn't help that right next to it is a heat biome that is super hot. I mean it is at 200+ degrees and climbing.

[Xarian]

CO2 in this game is not "C + O2". It is a separate gas that does separate things.

[Cluuderoni pizza]

Originally posted by AquaX:

Originally posted by Cluuderoni pizza:

Why'd you pull out all of the ice if the steam geysers guarantee infinite water? You could have your base seperate from the ice biom. As you base heats up you have the hydrogen coolant system running but instead of using thermoregs you move the pipes into the ice biom to cool the gas. Just a thought

I was coverting an entire section of my ice biome to a sleet wheat farm. Turns out, it's the cold materials in it that is acting as the heat sink. The biome itself cools but at an unbelievable slow rate.
I tried that with water to but I did the same thing and I didn't know it at the time.

The wheat were stuck at around 10-15 and the drop was so low, I found it faster building a hydrogen cooling sys and piping it into that area to cool it. It worked and temp dropped to around -10-5. Also it doesn't help that right next to it is a heat biome that is super hot. I mean it is at 200+ degrees and climbing.

Is sleet wheat good? I'm growing mealwood in my base right now. It's not enough for my colonists though so I run the Microbe musher on the side.

Also wouldnt it be smarter to insulate the steam geyser and have a pump pump out the water and then run it through a cold biom before letting the water enter your base? I'm not sure if the heat will be so extreme that it will kill the cold biom but if it does maybe you can regulate how much of the geyser water you let flow through the biom.