Hand of Fate 2
Johnny Bravo Dec 26, 2017 @ 12:26am
golden Justice token
just HOW am I supposed to keep 500 man alive at the fort? It is absolutely impossible. Am I missing something? Is there some special kinda trick or what
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Zombie Dec 26, 2017 @ 12:33am 
It feels far more luck-based than any other token I've ever done. I'm sure one of the last few challenges will be harder and more BS, but those are also challenges near the end of the game. Frustrating x.x


Can someone tell me what I'll get for getting the gold Justice token?
Emilio Dec 26, 2017 @ 1:46am 
Justice is only hard when you don't play it correctly.
I have a simple guide here that you can follow for a really easy win.
Originally posted by Emilio:
Justice is super easy.
Probably one of the easiest ones in the entire game.

Quckly do some math at the start to see how much material you need.
  • Farm the easy forest for the 100 wood.
  • Build the thing that requires the least amount of wood.
  • Go to the quarry and get rock for the bridge.
  • Build the bridge and go back for more soldiers and farm the quarry a bit more
  • Go over the bridge and farm all the wood you need for the rest of the map.
  • Build the best of the fortifications and then go wait by the quarry for the mountain path to become available.
  • Build the path and farm the quarry for the last of the stone.
  • Build everything and use the campfire to wait by the right side of the fort avoiding all the northeners.

That is the quickest and easiest way to do the mission and will net you about 600 soldiers give or take a few. Super easy gold token.
Bultagin Dec 26, 2017 @ 7:19am 
ELASESINADOR Dec 26, 2017 @ 12:34pm 
Remember to equip the mask that marks a failure in the card moving game. That item helped me so much with the quarry. And everytime you are near the camp and will get an northener attack, go to help the fort. Just master the card and pendulum game a little, and use a companion like Estrella or Ariadne (pendulum or card) for the minigames help.
Johnny Dec 26, 2017 @ 1:04pm 
500 man? 2 Weeks ago it was 400! ♥♥♥♥ this token seriously....
Nibbie Dec 26, 2017 @ 4:37pm 
Originally posted by Emilio:
Justice is only hard when you don't play it correctly.
I have a simple guide here that you can follow for a really easy win.
Originally posted by Emilio:
Justice is super easy.
Probably one of the easiest ones in the entire game.

Quckly do some math at the start to see how much material you need.
  • Farm the easy forest for the 100 wood.
  • Build the thing that requires the least amount of wood.
  • Go to the quarry and get rock for the bridge.
  • Build the bridge and go back for more soldiers and farm the quarry a bit more
  • Go over the bridge and farm all the wood you need for the rest of the map.
  • Build the best of the fortifications and then go wait by the quarry for the mountain path to become available.
  • Build the path and farm the quarry for the last of the stone.
  • Build everything and use the campfire to wait by the right side of the fort avoiding all the northeners.

That is the quickest and easiest way to do the mission and will net you about 600 soldiers give or take a few. Super easy gold token.

I can second this, pretty much the exact strategy I used. Getting the bridge and tunnel ASAP are the two most important things.
Johnny Bravo Dec 27, 2017 @ 2:22am 
took me about 10 tries today but i finally did it!! thanks to all of you guys, you are the best
Vex Dec 27, 2017 @ 2:38am 
Justice gold token
Who decided to make the challenge to keep 500 soldiers alive instead of 400? Its basicaly impossible. I do everything as soon as i can but still go lower that 500 soldiers before i can build everything. I followed every guide and it doesnt help
Cheeseness  [developer] Dec 27, 2017 @ 2:38am 
Merging in another thread with near identical title and concerns.
Emilio Dec 27, 2017 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Dokkaebi:
Justice gold token
Who decided to make the challenge to keep 500 soldiers alive instead of 400? Its basicaly impossible. I do everything as soon as i can but still go lower that 500 soldiers before i can build everything. I followed every guide and it doesnt help
See my guide in this thread. Give it a couple of tries and you'll do it eventually.
ZeroDemigod Dec 27, 2017 @ 9:59pm 
I know exactly what this guy is talking about. The first couple times I tried Justice I had no idea how I was supposed to win with even 100 soldiers remaining.

The key is to basically have enough food that you get all the wood you need from the 2nd forest in ONE PASS. If you find yourself having to go back and forth across the bridge because you keep having to reifill to the paltry 5 (or was it 10?) free food the mess hall gives you, you're doing it wrong.

You want to have a ton of food (think 25+) going past the bridge the first time so you can simply farm the 2nd forest over and over until you have enough wood for all the upgrades at once.

Hope this helps!
x_equals_speed Jan 1, 2018 @ 4:10am 
I think some of the suggestions in this thread make it harder rather than easier. It can be done every time with no RNG - but the trick isn't getting all of the resources in one trip, it's to be continuously building.

The enemy camp spawns patrols at a particular rate which take a particular number of turns to reach your camp. Each building takes a certain amount of time to build once all buildings are complete you don't lose any more soldiers. The challenge is to finish all of the buildings before enough patrols have reached the camp to knock it below 500. The way to do that isn't to make few trips - it's to recongnise any turn in which the camp is not building something as a waste. If you can minimise that number, you win.

I took this approach:

Start by stepping right into the fort, grab people to cut things down. Go left and down to get to the light woods via the starting square (the fort isn't building anything atm so you want to go this way to avoid exploring new cards till it is)

Hit the woods until you get 90 wood, ideally this can be done in two perfect challenges (hit the little gold bit of the pendulum rather than silver).

Back to the fort (again via the explored space) and tell it to build the ballista (The 60 wood option). The reason for this is that it will be a fair while until you have the resources for a second build so you're going to have dead turns with no building - if you build the cheapest thing it finishes sooner and you waste more turns. If you build the more expensive thing you don't have the wood for the bridge and will have to go the long way around to get to the second forest.

Pop over to the right, quarry once and once only to get the stone for the bridge. Then head over to the bridge (left then down) and start it building. Head back to the fort grab some new people, check what the second cheapest (in terms of wood) building you can put together with the stone on your person is and note how much wood it needs. Remember some buildings have perquisites so don't pick one of those. (The cheapest building will be the 30 wood thing, but that builds too quickly for our purposes)

Then over the bridge to the 2nd lot of wood. Grab just as much wood as you need. Get back to the fort and set it building.

From here on out you should be building every turn. A trip to the forest or the quarry and back with several builds should be doable before anything is completed (except possibly the cheapo 30 wood thing - hang around the fort and wait for that to finish) so you should find you can now acquire the resources for the next thing and be back to the fort before the last thing has finished building.

Stuff to bear in mind:

After giving a build order take one step and camp to see the % complete. From that you can work out how many turns you need to get back. First get enough wood/stone for the next thing and then if you have leftover turns you can choose between getting more resources or flipping some cards for (hopefully) equipment and so on to win the final fight with.

When you hear a rumour of the secret passage, quarry the next time you can without causing a missed build turn. This reveals a cave, if you step into the cave you can fortify it with a small amount of stone and wood. This automatically defeats the next raider to come that way and forces the others to take the long way around.

If you run into patrols you can deliberately screw up hiding from them in order to engage them, this lets you kill some of them and reduces the damage they do to the fort. I didn't bother, but if you've messed up somewhere or are trying to see what the theoretical maximum number of people to save are then it might be worth it. If you're on the fort when they attack you'll take part in the defensive battle personally and can reduce casualties a little.

Once everything is built attacks will just bounce off the fort, if you want to explore the rest of the map this is the time. When you go back to the fort the army will attach to you and every patrol you hit will damage it (without the chance to do a hiding minigame).

When you're ready grab the army and proceed to the final fight via the quarry and hidden passage. If you've fortified the passage then the enemy should no longer be taking that route and you can get there without losing anyone along the way.

I did it this way, I made a couple of mistakes and had over 750 alive at the end. I think 800 is probably possible if you really push for it and don't get lazy about evading patrols rather than fighting them every time. Maybe they'll put in an achievement for it someday :P

You can screw up the challenges and you can lose the fights, but the map layout and resource amounts are pretty fixed - there's nothing the RNG can do to stop you getting this gold.
x_equals_speed Jan 1, 2018 @ 4:12am 
Oh and don't put anything in the encounter deck that's going to stay on the board. First time I did this I had the beggar king in there asking for 27 food and giving the patrols a free move every time I (predictably) couldn't pay up. That totally screwed me.
Gaydolf Honkler Oct 1, 2022 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by x_equals_speed:
I think some of the suggestions in this thread make it harder rather than easier. It can be done every time with no RNG - but the trick isn't getting all of the resources in one trip, it's to be continuously building.

The enemy camp spawns patrols at a particular rate which take a particular number of turns to reach your camp. Each building takes a certain amount of time to build once all buildings are complete you don't lose any more soldiers. The challenge is to finish all of the buildings before enough patrols have reached the camp to knock it below 500. The way to do that isn't to make few trips - it's to recongnise any turn in which the camp is not building something as a waste. If you can minimise that number, you win.

I took this approach:

Start by stepping right into the fort, grab people to cut things down. Go left and down to get to the light woods via the starting square (the fort isn't building anything atm so you want to go this way to avoid exploring new cards till it is)

Hit the woods until you get 90 wood, ideally this can be done in two perfect challenges (hit the little gold bit of the pendulum rather than silver).

Back to the fort (again via the explored space) and tell it to build the ballista (The 60 wood option). The reason for this is that it will be a fair while until you have the resources for a second build so you're going to have dead turns with no building - if you build the cheapest thing it finishes sooner and you waste more turns. If you build the more expensive thing you don't have the wood for the bridge and will have to go the long way around to get to the second forest.

Pop over to the right, quarry once and once only to get the stone for the bridge. Then head over to the bridge (left then down) and start it building. Head back to the fort grab some new people, check what the second cheapest (in terms of wood) building you can put together with the stone on your person is and note how much wood it needs. Remember some buildings have perquisites so don't pick one of those. (The cheapest building will be the 30 wood thing, but that builds too quickly for our purposes)

Then over the bridge to the 2nd lot of wood. Grab just as much wood as you need. Get back to the fort and set it building.

From here on out you should be building every turn. A trip to the forest or the quarry and back with several builds should be doable before anything is completed (except possibly the cheapo 30 wood thing - hang around the fort and wait for that to finish) so you should find you can now acquire the resources for the next thing and be back to the fort before the last thing has finished building.

Stuff to bear in mind:

After giving a build order take one step and camp to see the % complete. From that you can work out how many turns you need to get back. First get enough wood/stone for the next thing and then if you have leftover turns you can choose between getting more resources or flipping some cards for (hopefully) equipment and so on to win the final fight with.

When you hear a rumour of the secret passage, quarry the next time you can without causing a missed build turn. This reveals a cave, if you step into the cave you can fortify it with a small amount of stone and wood. This automatically defeats the next raider to come that way and forces the others to take the long way around.

If you run into patrols you can deliberately screw up hiding from them in order to engage them, this lets you kill some of them and reduces the damage they do to the fort. I didn't bother, but if you've messed up somewhere or are trying to see what the theoretical maximum number of people to save are then it might be worth it. If you're on the fort when they attack you'll take part in the defensive battle personally and can reduce casualties a little.

Once everything is built attacks will just bounce off the fort, if you want to explore the rest of the map this is the time. When you go back to the fort the army will attach to you and every patrol you hit will damage it (without the chance to do a hiding minigame).

When you're ready grab the army and proceed to the final fight via the quarry and hidden passage. If you've fortified the passage then the enemy should no longer be taking that route and you can get there without losing anyone along the way.

I did it this way, I made a couple of mistakes and had over 750 alive at the end. I think 800 is probably possible if you really push for it and don't get lazy about evading patrols rather than fighting them every time. Maybe they'll put in an achievement for it someday :P

You can screw up the challenges and you can lose the fights, but the map layout and resource amounts are pretty fixed - there's nothing the RNG can do to stop you getting this gold.
This guy knows his stuff. I own this game on Epic Games Store, and am trying to 100% it, and had a great deal of issue with this golden token. But with this guy's advice i managed to pull it off.
Gaydolf Honkler Oct 1, 2022 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by x_equals_speed:
Oh and don't put anything in the encounter deck that's going to stay on the board. First time I did this I had the beggar king in there asking for 27 food and giving the patrols a free move every time I (predictably) couldn't pay up. That totally screwed me.
This guy is also right
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