Male saiyan ki balst or strike?

[AlphaASX]

Should i use ki blast supers/ ultimates for my male saiyan or strike supers/ultimates which one is better for him
Note*** he is set at mid weight

[Rutabaga]

If he's set to the medium weight, then really you can go for either. It's really up to the Super Soul, QQ bang/stats, and awakening you use at this point. Naturally your playstyle also impacts this decision, I personally have a similar build in which I have Max basics and a boost to Ki supers.

[AlphaASX]

Originally posted by Shade/Abhor:

If he's set to the medium weight, then really you can go for either. It's really up to the Super Soul, QQ bang/stats, and awakening you use at this point. Naturally your playstyle also impacts this decision, I personally have a similar build in which I have Max basics and a boost to Ki supers.

Mid weight but i want to choose one of them so i max it at states

[Rutabaga]

Originally posted by AlphaASX:

Originally posted by Shade/Abhor:

If he's set to the medium weight, then really you can go for either. It's really up to the Super Soul, QQ bang/stats, and awakening you use at this point. Naturally your playstyle also impacts this decision, I personally have a similar build in which I have Max basics and a boost to Ki supers.

Mid weight but i want to choose one of them so i max it at states

Well as said it is really up to you. However it is worth noting that Ki Supers will give you significantly more options, whilst the few good strike options are really good and can be really dangerous when you allocate your stats for them. Though most of the good strike options still work really well even if you don't build for them, which is why I personally went for Ki Supers.


<Detail as to why I can't give you a solid answer>

The reason I can't give you a solid answer for this, is because the Racial Modifier for male Saiyans is the same in both Ki and Strike Supers. So if you had a Strike Super and Ki Super that have the same base damage, a male Saiyan with a medium build (and nothing impacting their stats) would generally get the same damage output regardless of which Super you used. On the otherhand under the same conditions, a female Majin will deal more damage with the Strike Super.
Edit: It is worth noting that male Saiyans have the highest modifier for Basic Attacks.

[Null_User]

I'd say ki blast supers if you have medium weight. As a super saiyan, you get the benefit of teleporting charged supers like Big bang Kamehameha, Evil explosion, and the chargeable versions of Galik gun and Kamehameha. In this setup, you can pretty much max the ki blast super stat and give basic attack at most 100 points (not more than that because of soft caps) and do decent damage with both kinds of attacks. You won't be numerically stronger at either, but the mix of ki blast and basic attacking will make you a bit more versatile.

[Creamy]

it is both realy strong just choose what you like more

[AlphaASX]

Originally posted by Hanuke:

I'd say ki blast supers if you have medium weight. As a super saiyan, you get the benefit of teleporting charged supers like Big bang Kamehameha, Evil explosion, and the chargeable versions of Galik gun and Kamehameha. In this setup, you can pretty much max the ki blast super stat and give basic attack at most 100 points (not more than that because of soft caps) and do decent damage with both kinds of attacks. You won't be numerically stronger at either, but the mix of ki blast and basic attacking will make you a bit more versatile.

Ok but why basic attacks at 100?
And what are these soft caps?

[Creamy]

Originally posted by AlphaASX:

Originally posted by Hanuke:

I'd say ki blast supers if you have medium weight. As a super saiyan, you get the benefit of teleporting charged supers like Big bang Kamehameha, Evil explosion, and the chargeable versions of Galik gun and Kamehameha. In this setup, you can pretty much max the ki blast super stat and give basic attack at most 100 points (not more than that because of soft caps) and do decent damage with both kinds of attacks. You won't be numerically stronger at either, but the mix of ki blast and basic attacking will make you a bit more versatile.

Ok but why basic attacks at 100?
And what are these soft caps?

the real cap is 125 but you must do the namek missions for it before this you just can use 100 per attribut

[Null_User]

Originally posted by AlphaASX:

Originally posted by Hanuke:

I'd say ki blast supers if you have medium weight. As a super saiyan, you get the benefit of teleporting charged supers like Big bang Kamehameha, Evil explosion, and the chargeable versions of Galik gun and Kamehameha. In this setup, you can pretty much max the ki blast super stat and give basic attack at most 100 points (not more than that because of soft caps) and do decent damage with both kinds of attacks. You won't be numerically stronger at either, but the mix of ki blast and basic attacking will make you a bit more versatile.

Ok but why basic attacks at 100?
And what are these soft caps?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=790853823
This guide explains the concept of soft caps. In short, a character with a strong stat will suffer from a soft cap earlier than a character with a weaker initial stat. The soft cap itself means that adding more points to a stat after certain amount will give smaller and smaller returns. Essentially the added points after the soft cap will count, but won't be as valuable and won't add much to the overall stat.

Male saiyan's basic attack stat is the best in the game. meaning it will reach a soft cap earlier than all of his other stats. If you had a max weight saiyan, I could say to not add more than 90 points to the stat. If you had a thin saiyan, I'd say 110 to 120. So mid weight, I say 100.

on the other side, male saiyan's ki blast and strike super stats are the lowest in the game, so you can safely max them (125) and the stat will have a decent gain from all the points, as opposed to reduced returns.