Strike Build: Saiyan vs Earthling

[Warnivore]

For a pure basic attack & strike super build, would it be better to use a hard-hitting male saiyan (since their basice attack stat is through the roof and it's what's mostly used in a fight) or a male human since they have higher stats in strike supers?

Would also love to know which race is better in terms of combos and which can land stamina breaks easier.

[Gamrage]

Honestly, it's not that much different.
Saiyan Male
- Strongest Melee Basic Attacks in the game.
- Super Saiyan 3: Strike Supers and Melee Basics. (low to almost no Ki Regen)
- Potential Unleashed: Balanced increase for everything.
- Future Super Saiyan: Slightly weaker bonuses than Potential Unleashed but lets you keep the Saiyan teleport ability.
- Kaioken: Increase to all stats with unlimited Stamina. (Stamina slowly drains itself and Evasives will drain your stamina faster.)

Human Male
- Strongest Strike Supers in the game.
- Potential Unleashed: Balanced increase for everything.
- Kaioken: Increase to all stats with unlimited Stamina. (Stamina slowly drains itself and Evasives will drain your stamina faster.)

I would say being a Saiyan gives you more options, but honestly, there's not much in terms of differences.

Personally I just made a Male Saiyan just to intentionally make him bald and name him Rogain so when he transforms to Super Saiyan 3, he'll have a full head of hair.

[Warnivore]

Originally posted by Gamrage:

Honestly, it's not that much different.
Saiyan Male
- Strongest Melee Basic Attacks in the game.
- Super Saiyan 3: Strike Supers and Melee Basics. (low to almost no Ki Regen)
- Potential Unleashed: Balanced increase for everything.
- Future Super Saiyan: Slightly weaker bonuses than Potential Unleashed but lets you keep the Saiyan teleport ability.
- Kaioken: Increase to all stats with unlimited Stamina. (Stamina slowly drains itself and Evasives will drain your stamina faster.)

Human Male
- Strongest Strike Supers in the game.
- Potential Unleashed: Balanced increase for everything.
- Kaioken: Increase to all stats with unlimited Stamina. (Stamina slowly drains itself and Evasives will drain your stamina faster.)

I would say being a Saiyan gives you more options, but honestly, there's not much in terms of differences.

Personally I just made a Male Saiyan just to intentionally make him bald and name him Rogain so when he transforms to Super Saiyan 3, he'll have a full head of hair.

lmao, you're too funny and clever! Thanks for the quick response. I guess saiyans would have the slight edge since they have that teleport ability, making them much quicker.

[Null_User]

Depends on what you use most in your fights. If you lean more towards basic attacks, you go for saiyan. SSJ3 and Cabba's new soul will make you into a basic attack killing machine. Plus all the gold dyed hair you can get.

If you like to spam strike supers more, then you will want earthling. The other benefit of Earthling as a strike super build is their ki regen. On the bad side and unless I'm missing something, there's no super soul that actively buffs your super strike stat for more than a few seconds. The ones that give you a more permanent buff or at least when in awakened form, are locked to "when super saiyan" exclusively for no darned reason but for the devs to troll everyone who doesn't play saiyans. So if you want a buff for your strike male earthling, your only choice would be "The ultimate power is mine", which gives a +10% general buff.

[TaKo]

i personally reccomend this: dont use strike abilities on male saiyans, their basic attacks are so strong(especially with SSJ3) that u are better off doing regular combos and investing in ki supers for a more flexible play style

[Warnivore]

Originally posted by Hanuke:

Depends on what you use most in your fights. If you lean more towards basic attacks, you go for saiyan. SSJ3 and Cabba's new soul will make you into a basic attack killing machine. Plus all the gold dyed hair you can get.

If you like to spam strike supers more, then you will want earthling. The other benefit of Earthling as a strike super build is their ki regen. On the bad side and unless I'm missing something, there's no super soul that actively buffs your super strike stat for more than a few seconds. The ones that give you a more permanent buff or at least when in awakened form, are locked to "when super saiyan" exclusively for no darned reason but for the devs to troll everyone who doesn't play saiyans. So if you want a buff for your strike male earthling, your only choice would be "The ultimate power is mine", which gives a +10% general buff.

I love landing strike supers, but about 75% of the time, there's punching involved (punch between 3-10 times prior to going for a strike super/ultimate). I don't think anyone who would solely use supers and ultimates without using basic attacks lol. With that that in mind, wouldn't Saiyans be the optimal choice for any strike build (since punching comes prior to using supers/ultimates)?

[Null_User]

Originally posted by Revolution:

Originally posted by Hanuke:

Depends on what you use most in your fights. If you lean more towards basic attacks, you go for saiyan. SSJ3 and Cabba's new soul will make you into a basic attack killing machine. Plus all the gold dyed hair you can get.

If you like to spam strike supers more, then you will want earthling. The other benefit of Earthling as a strike super build is their ki regen. On the bad side and unless I'm missing something, there's no super soul that actively buffs your super strike stat for more than a few seconds. The ones that give you a more permanent buff or at least when in awakened form, are locked to "when super saiyan" exclusively for no darned reason but for the devs to troll everyone who doesn't play saiyans. So if you want a buff for your strike male earthling, your only choice would be "The ultimate power is mine", which gives a +10% general buff.

I love landing strike supers, but about 75% of the time, there's punching involved (punch between 3-10 times prior to going for a strike super/ultimate). I don't think anyone who would solely use supers and ultimates without using basic attacks lol. With that that in mind, wouldn't Saiyans be the optimal choice for any strike build (since punching comes prior to using supers/ultimates)?

It still depends on what you focus on. Say, you can have a basic puncher who has mostly positioning and general supers to pressure the opponent through ways other than plain damage. You could also go on the cheap side with a basic attacker build and add GoDA to it, a super you will deal reduced (tough not plain minimal) damage with on your build, but you get the stamina break opener for a basic attack combo. OR, you could focus on having your supers be the bulk of your damage, on which you will need a fair amount of ki, both in storage and in flow. The first build benefits from a saiyan's strengths, while the second benefits from the earthling's ki regen ability.

Again, I say this because I prefer to focus on something, even in my more jack of trades characters. For example, I have a mid weight frieza race character. In this game, the devs buffed the frieza race's basic attack capability to near the top of the ranks while leaving his ki blast ability extremely high due to gold form. This allows my frieza guy to switch from decent basic attacking to also decent ki blasting, but I usually focus more on ki blasts with him, and not having a super soul for him to buff basic attacks the way I can buff ki blast supers with the "before creation comes ruin" soul, the choice was clear.

NOW, as I said in several other threads, while the difference beween first and last on a category is plainly visible, the balance is not as wacked as it was in XV1. Here, you can install a ki blast super to a pure strike build and it will do decent damage, so no matter in the end what race you choose for your build, you will not have to worry much about having a totally useless stat.

[Jewbacca]

Originally posted by Gamrage:

Honestly, it's not that much different.
Saiyan Male
- Strongest Melee Basic Attacks in the game.
- Super Saiyan 3: Strike Supers and Melee Basics. (low to almost no Ki Regen)
- Potential Unleashed: Balanced increase for everything.
- Future Super Saiyan: Slightly weaker bonuses than Potential Unleashed but lets you keep the Saiyan teleport ability.
- Kaioken: Increase to all stats with unlimited Stamina. (Stamina slowly drains itself and Evasives will drain your stamina faster.)

Human Male
- Strongest Strike Supers in the game.
- Potential Unleashed: Balanced increase for everything.
- Kaioken: Increase to all stats with unlimited Stamina. (Stamina slowly drains itself and Evasives will drain your stamina faster.)

I would say being a Saiyan gives you more options, but honestly, there's not much in terms of differences.

Personally I just made a Male Saiyan just to intentionally make him bald and name him Rogain so when he transforms to Super Saiyan 3, he'll have a full head of hair.

Wrong. Kaioken increases damage done, and damage taken. +15% damage done, +25% movement speed, and +30% damage taken at x20. Don't know what crazy idea made the devs to do this, but sadly that's how it works. With the new super soul "I saved this kaioken". It's stamina cost greatly reduced. To 0 at x3. Kaioken base gives little attack boost, and nothing else, x3 gives more boost, and some damage taken, and halves the stamina cost of abilities except evasive move, x20 gives the boost i wrote, and makes stamina stuff free except evasive moves.

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[TerraMGP]

Originally posted by Revolution:

Originally posted by Hanuke:

Depends on what you use most in your fights. If you lean more towards basic attacks, you go for saiyan. SSJ3 and Cabba's new soul will make you into a basic attack killing machine. Plus all the gold dyed hair you can get.

If you like to spam strike supers more, then you will want earthling. The other benefit of Earthling as a strike super build is their ki regen. On the bad side and unless I'm missing something, there's no super soul that actively buffs your super strike stat for more than a few seconds. The ones that give you a more permanent buff or at least when in awakened form, are locked to "when super saiyan" exclusively for no darned reason but for the devs to troll everyone who doesn't play saiyans. So if you want a buff for your strike male earthling, your only choice would be "The ultimate power is mine", which gives a +10% general buff.

I love landing strike supers, but about 75% of the time, there's punching involved (punch between 3-10 times prior to going for a strike super/ultimate). I don't think anyone who would solely use supers and ultimates without using basic attacks lol. With that that in mind, wouldn't Saiyans be the optimal choice for any strike build (since punching comes prior to using supers/ultimates)?

My Ki blast Saiyan hardly ever punches. I designed her based on a character idea of someone bad at martial arts outside of throwing ki attacks, so she is bad at physical attacks for the most part. Still works out fine, especially since I apparenlty had far less trouble than most with PQ101.

My striker is a human female who is an android and thus uses 'energy drain' and swords. She honestly works just fine.

Personally I say what I will always say. Figure out your characters perosnality and story, then build to that.