A few issues...

[Addzz]

I have just got this and whilst i like the game but I'm having these issues.

1. Guests do not disperse, i have expensive coasters and a total of 6 rides in the corner of my park, yet there's no footfall near them whatsoever, that forces me to maintain a small park size or faces big losses. Despite many footpath routes over, guest DO NOT disperse to this area of the park. Visitor increases from building new rides seem disproportionate to the amount of people you need to maintain profit.

2. You can literally put an exit next to the entrance to make visitors walk past the ride entrance after leaving the ride, this can just get visitors in a cycle of going on the same ride...

3. Despite giving out park maps, guests walk into 'dead zones' where if the exit has to be longer they walk down that path and bounce back wasting time.

4. NO ONE BUYS A FREAKING ON RIDE PHOTO EVER, EVERRRRRR!

[Niriel]

1. A screenshot would help. I've finished the game and have never seen this problem. Actually, I've experienced quite the opposite: guests dispersing all over, forcing me to put benches and food stalls all over to keep them from starvation and exhaustion. I've never used the biggest possible map, though.

2. That's not really a problem; it's something people do in real life too. At the end of the day, out of season, it's not uncommon for me to ride the same coaster five times in a row since the line is empty and the ride is free.

3. Guests are curious. In Planet coaster, all the guests have perfect knowledge of the park and go down a path only if there is something there they want to see. In real life, people just like walking around, exploring and sucking up the scenery. You can use "Staff only" signs to prevent guests from walking up to the exit of a ride when there's nothing else on that path.

4. Haven't played with ride photos yet.

[Bill Nye]

Guests might be curious, but no one in their right mind would go here https://www.google.com/maps/place/28%C2%B028'34.9%22N+81%C2%B028'12.2%22W/@28.476353,-81.4706065,223m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m9!1m2!2m1!1suniversal+studios!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d28.4763527!4d-81.4700577?hl=en

[Bill Nye]

Originally posted by Space Cat:

Guests might be curious, but no one in their right mind would go here https://www.google.com/maps/place/28%C2%B028'34.9%22N+81%C2%B028'12.2%22W/@28.476353,-81.4706065,223m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m9!1m2!2m1!1suniversal+studios!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d28.4763527!4d-81.4700577?hl=en

especially if the guests have a map

[tr!star*]

I was there in real!! Universal Studios Orlando Florida, in both parks :D
And true at this spot i wasn´t. nothing to find there

[TwoTonGamer]

1. Guests not queuing for your rides.
Just a guess, but have you accidentally made the ride queue out of normal path instead of the ride queue path? I have never seen guests ignore a whole area of the park that has rides to go to. Also, guests ignoring a whole area of your park sounds so unusual, check the paths to this area are indeed guest paths and not employee paths or something.

2. Exit of a ride near its own entrance attracts consecutive visits.
Normal behavior. If they really like the ride they will want to "go again". Pro-tip: You can plan whole areas of your park with a "guest flow" in mind. Each ride exit leads to another ride and that ride leads to yet another and so on. The guests aren't robots, though, and if they don't want to go on the next ride they go their own way.

3. Guests following paths to nowhere.
Do not give them paths to nowhere.
Use the path signs to disallow guests from going where you do not want them to go (like a long exit path from a ride). Or, remove a single tile of path so they cannot continue to areas of the park that have no attractions for them to visit.

[Lily]

I echo the same things that TwoTonGamer said and to add:

1. If everything is technically okay with the ride and queue and they still don't want to ride the ride, it means it's too boring, too intense, or too expensive.

2. I LOVE this because it lets me know how much they loved the ride and I can count on that monetarily, I can plan around a ride that brings in this income.

3. In real life, I will do this too, thinking I might miss something. So in the game, don't give them these areas to go to. Management-wise, you never want paths you have to maintain anyway and having your guests walk too much will make them tired.

4. Ride photos just came out so I am no expert on these yet, that being said, I've sold plenty. I think a good price is around ~$3-4. Make sure your camera is placed after a large drop and it's vertically higher than the coaster car to get a good down angle on their terrified faces.

[DragonKhan]

To 1)
Be careful to not go "too big, too early".
Guests take a while to get through a big park, and if there's nothing to do along the way it'll take them even longer.
Sadly, many scenarios offer you already a large park with a large walkway loop. It's very tough to operate at a profit when just opening the park like that.
When starting, keep your park condensed at the entrance, destroying some walkways if necessary so guests don't scramble. If there is already coasters present at the back, close them at first and open them later when the park "naturally" expanded to that area.
Essentially, keep walkways to a minimum. The more time guests spend in lines and at stalls instead of just walking around, the more of a profit you make. ;)

[Lily]

Whoa... if the coasters exist when start a campaign, you keep those open, those are your money-makers.

[DragonKhan]

Originally posted by rancidl:

Whoa... if the coasters exist when start a campaign, you keep those open, those are your money-makers.

Not always. Disaster Peaks is a great example where it makes sense to close the coasters in the back at first. Early on they won't be making money simply because guests don't get there enough.
A ride that is closed doesn't make any money, but it also doesn't cost any.

[Lily]

Originally posted by DragonKhan:

Originally posted by rancidl:

Whoa... if the coasters exist when start a campaign, you keep those open, those are your money-makers.

Not always. Disaster Peaks is a great example where it makes sense to close the coasters in the back at first. Early on they won't be making money simply because guests don't get there enough.
A ride that is closed doesn't make any money, but it also doesn't cost any.

I didn't have that experience... lol. I would suggest keeping the money-makers open.

[DragonKhan]

Well, as I've said, they're not going to make money the first few months until the guests actually get there. They are NOT money-makers early on.
I've played the scenario twice. First time with keeping it all open. I managed, but there were a few struggles to really get the park going. The second time I closed the stuff in the back for a while (including cutting off extensive walkways) and concentrated on the front. It's MUCH easier.
Also, looking around, this seems to be a commonly suggested strategy.

Or did they change something so that guests scramble better?

[Addzz]

Broken game, needs massive work.
In RCT you'd see even distribution of the guests, this game 70% of them converge at the front of the park and don't cover most of the park.
I watched one character and she waled up and down the same path 5 times, bought a drink and left. The decision making in the programming of guests is a wildcard and they need to sit down every 15 feet.

I clicked on guest details too, when you look at the walking path of the guests it's extremely uneven. They've over complicated this by programming in guest preferences like "enjoys extreme rides" that means that if you 700 in a park, a huge number won't even set foot on most of the rides. I left the game on fast forward for 2 hours and my brand new shiny rollercoaster makings a loss and it's not even that far from the park gate. How you explain into a full large flat terrain is beyond me, they do not distrubute properly.

[TwoTonGamer]

Maybe try downloading a park from the Workshop just to see some other working park.

My current park has four main areas, using most of the map and they are all populated realistically. All spread out.

'Tired' guests sit down for a moment. Mine don't sit down every 15 feet...they sit down to reduce their tiredness meter.

Guests wander. They stroll the walkways. I went to Disneyland and I wandered, too. See something and ride it. Guests are doing that in game, too.

Ride preference is a great mechanic. It's a 'preference' and does not exclude them from riding other rides. I've followed guests that like extreme rides and watched them ride calm ones, too. And vice versa.

No one riding the shiny new rollercoaster? As an experiment try downloading a coaster from the workshop with good stats and see if that performs well in your park. Try to pick one that will appeal to many people and is not too sedate or too extreme.

[DragonKhan]

Originally posted by Addzz:

Broken game, needs massive work.
In RCT you'd see even distribution of the guests, this game 70% of them converge at the front of the park and don't cover most of the park.
I watched one character and she waled up and down the same path 5 times, bought a drink and left. The decision making in the programming of guests is a wildcard and they need to sit down every 15 feet.

I clicked on guest details too, when you look at the walking path of the guests it's extremely uneven. They've over complicated this by programming in guest preferences like "enjoys extreme rides" that means that if you 700 in a park, a huge number won't even set foot on most of the rides. I left the game on fast forward for 2 hours and my brand new shiny rollercoaster makings a loss and it's not even that far from the park gate. How you explain into a full large flat terrain is beyond me, they do not distrubute properly.

First of all, this is FAR from broken. Don't exaggerate unnecessarily.
Most of your complaints were exactly the same in RCT. The randomness was always something you had to deal with. I remember LOADS of times where peeps in RCT got stuck/lost.
Same with the ride preferences. That also was part of specific challenges in RCT.

I DO however agree with you on the need of guests to sit down in Parkitect being a bit extreme. It's one of the reasons large empty parks have trouble, because the guests often get too tired and take too long to get to the back of the park. If they have plenty of things to do along the way it's fine though. So it just means you should build parks in Parkitect from the front to the back.

I don't know why your new rollercoaster won't work. I'm going to assume it's a well build ride (because if the stats suck, you shouldn't be surprised). How far away from the gate is it? And what is there for the guests on the way to it?

[TwoTonGamer]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1931170132

Addzz, here is the park I am currently on. You can check it out if you like and see if it behaves the same way your parks are behaving.

It's an amateur park, I have limited creativity...but many of the issues you are bringing up just don't seem present.