Losing gold ore...

[TonK]

I have almost 100g gold ore, but when midnight come with daily resume/expences etc, my gold was reset to zero!!WTF?I must smelt and sell my ore before 0:00 come?!?!So angry now... lot of grind in hell!!

pls, another question.Is there any financial overview during the day? I can only see my costs when recalculating, i dont know how much to count on so dont end day in the red numbers, mean with loan...
THX

[Tregon]

Are you on leased land? Owner wants their cut remember.

And yes, if your cash cannot pay expenses you take hit in your gold, at worse rate. So always smelt and sell ahead if your money is low.

[GuyMonkey]

As long as a claim is rented when you dig up gold, you have to pay 30%-45% (depends on the rented claim) of that gold as a fee. This fee is taken from gold or money. (Gold first)
It's more efficient to pay with gold than with money. So if you are on Old Arnolds and dig up 300g gold, just keep 90g unsmelted gold for the fee.
And there is no way to cheat this system, as the game knows, where you've dug up the gold and if the claim was rented at that moment.

There is no overview of financials. And there is no overview of rented equipment. You have to keep track of it by yourself.

[TonK]

yeah, im on Old Arnolds parcel(im starting, new in game day3).Thank you very much for your reply guys... Im a bit clear about it now.But you are contradicting yourself a bit. Tregon recommends paying in money, GuyMonkey in gold(unsmelted) :-D

...and its very sad if there no financial stats/overview about my situation.That way I could know how much I can invest without risking debt.
Sry for my ENG :-)

[GuyMonkey]

If you mine gold, you have to pay a 30% fee.
If you melt gold, you pay money for the melting and you lose some gold during the melting.

So you have to pay a 30% mining fee, and you can pay for this with gold or money. If you want to pay with money, the amount of gold to be paid is converted into money at the gold rate at midnight to get the amount to be paid.

But since you lose gold during the melting and also have to pay for the melting, the 30% fee is actually higher if it is paid with money than with gold.


I try to either smelt after midnight and the fees, or add up my cleanouts per day and keep 30% from smelting.

[TonK]

Yes, this makes sense!
Man, so much THX for your tips. Now its time to dig BIG hole :-D

[Tregon]

Originally posted by GuyMonkey:

If you mine gold, you have to pay a 30% fee.
If you melt gold, you pay money for the melting and you lose some gold during the melting.

So you have to pay a 30% mining fee, and you can pay for this with gold or money. If you want to pay with money, the amount of gold to be paid is converted into money at the gold rate at midnight to get the amount to be paid.

But since you lose gold during the melting and also have to pay for the melting, the 30% fee is actually higher if it is paid with money than with gold.


I try to either smelt after midnight and the fees, or add up my cleanouts per day and keep 30% from smelting.

However, at same time smelted and sold gold is much more valuable than raw gold even after smelting costs and losses. So amount that would be lost to lease can actually leave money in your bank if you smelt and sell it and then lease (from what I understand) has value of raw gold deducted from account.

[GuyMonkey]

True, never sell gold ore if it can be avoided.
Yes, you pay with raw ore, but at 100% value. Only when selling raw ore you only get 40% of the value.

If you dug up 100g gold, you need the pay 30g gold as fee.
You can:
a) pay 30g from your unsmelted raw ore
b) smelt 34g gold (10% loss when not upgraded), pay for this and sell the gold bar, to have enough money
c) sell 75g gold ore, as you only get 40% of the value, to have enough money

[NomadUniverse]

I've been over all this briefly and just wanted to add a couple of things. If you own the claim you wont pay any rent in gold or money. Also any gold from drilling is not taxed.

I just started a new playthrough in non seasonal with a personal objective of no loans, and used the gold from drilling OA to buy OA outright and get started with the excavator and mobile washplant. A bit of work digging and a bit more drilling and I could get set up with tier 3.

One that is running, a magnetite separator is a must, and the first blacksmith upgrade I went for was minimising gold losses.

[tesss]

Забей на эту руду. Арендуй бурильную машину, выставь скорость игры на 1х (по умолчанию стоит 12х) и ты сможешь за 1 игровой день набурить ДЕСЯТКИ килограмм золота, с которого не придётся платить процент Арнольду.
Лично я с участка Арнольда набурил около 100 кг золота (каждый квадрат бурил в 9 местах), потом всё это продал, купил сразу сам участок, промывку тир-5 ну и необходимую технику, а затем уже взялся копать саму руду, чтобы добыть магнетит и проапать кузницу.