Should I buy Old Arnold or only rent?

[OldManHobbs]

I am trying to dig up the first half of Old Arnold (the claim looks like two rectangular sections that I call the front/back halves), and using it to buy the claim. Then I would have the entire back half free from the 30% hit. I figure I need about 240 buckets from the Mobile Wash Plant (based on my averages). I am only using the SMALL excavator (painful) and MWP. I'm digging the top layer as best I can, and then clearing that area from the bottom - trying not to dig from the bottom and deleting gold.

I just finished putting the 200th bucket into the pile. Once I hit 240, I will run it all and HOPE I have the 600k needed to buy the claim. Then I will start upgrading equipment.

I don't know if using the small excavator and MWP to dig up enough gold to buy the claim is mathematically the best approach in the long run or not. But this is the best way I can think of to buy the claim with about half of the claim untouched.

Ideas?

[dogwalker1]

Guys, the OP said hard mode => no nuggets, which has implications on the aforementioned drilling strategy.

[OldManHobbs]

I finally finished clearing Old Arnold. The first season, I got 38653 grams of gold, using the small excavator and mobile wash plant. I skipped to the end of the season and used the gold to purchase the Old Arnold claim and most of the T3 setup. I was a little short so I had to rent a few pieces of equipment to complete the T3.

Second season, I ended with 57741 grams of gold and 777499 grams of magnetite. Even at a low price, 57741 grams is close to 2.5 million. That is almost enough to buy the next two claims! I am thinking of buying Rivertown and more equipment and moving towards T4/5.

[OldManHobbs]

96,394 grams is the total amount of gold from Old Arnold claim with nothing left to dig - completely cleaned out claim (except for the hog pan area has a little left in it). For my game, the first season had a gold price around $43/gram. That means, I had roughly $4,144.942 worth of gold.

I used the MWP for the first season and cleaned 38,653 grams. I bought the claim before upgrading from the MWP. After season one ended, I bought most of the T3, but rented the 3 upgradeable pieces (trommel, shaker, jigs) with intentions of some of those after the second season. I finished the second season, and completely finished Old Arnold, with 57,741 grams through the T3. The only workers I had were on the hog pans/sluices.

With my cash out after season 2, I had roughly $2.22 million. I bought River Town ($1.2M), derocker, the reinforced trommel, 2 basic jigs, and a second dump truck. With a full work crew, I plan to take all that River Town has to offer.

[M.Stranger]

Congratulations Old Man Hobbs, your keeping good data.

This was back in Jan 2020

Ok, took me a while but I finally found the tests we did on the forums, here's the link to the full discussion: It is a lot of reading, but the I felt worth it, Renting/ buying both parcels and or equipment. But then we questioned wash plant levels, what is the game doing???

https://steamcommunity.com/app/451340/discussions/0/3311769434092575264/

Bottom line is what the WP efficiency really do?
Results:
T1: 96% (Highly efficient but VERY slow)
T2: 7%
T3: 20%
T4: 27%
T5: 33%

It's possible that they're planning something to go Tier 6 and possibly up but this is how the game currently stands if you mine the blocks correctly.

Whilst the % difference might not seem big, the returns you're getting are massive (Tier 5 over 50% more gold than Tier 3).

Remember also, that these tests are WITHOUT workers, so they'll also add to the bottom line and will add a greater % to Tier 5 than they will to Tier 3, pushing the 33% much higher (though I don't know to how much)."

Hope this helps.

There is more:

May 12, 2020 @ 8:56am
In topic What do workers do?
I basically discovered this information once I had workers assigned to the wash plant and they were at !00%. It was about half way thru Pine Valley.

I started looking more at the Workers Tab in the Tent, looking at each worker to see if I wanted to change their assignment. (There was a version change that allowed you to retrain them)

It was when the game was changed from workers who actual earned some gold as you mined, ( I would have to go back to the patch notes to see the version where this changed).

Then I realized that I had mined two parcels, that I had wash plants that were not as efficient as they could have been. I left more that 50% of the gold I could have gotten.
Since I had made saves on each parcel, as I progressed, I loaded a save at Old Arnold, upgraded equipment to Tier 5, most workers at 100%, and getting more gold than I ever had before cause my Wash Plant is now at 95% plus efficiency.

So it is what I learned while playing the game.

About Workers: Per the tablet in the tent, with workers at 100%

Conveyor Belt Hopper adds 7%
Conveyor Belt adds 7%
Glacier Creek adds 20%
Reinforced Trommel adds 10%
T-DJ adds 2%
T-DJ adds 2%
9 Workers on Wash Plant adds 4.5%

Hog Pan Pump Workers add 25% to the Hog Pan gold recovery ( per each Hog Pan Pump).

This can be verified per the worker tab, on each worker at 100% that is assigned to their respective equipment.

So take another look at the data you have collected, how much gold did you lose because of the level of Wash plant you chose?

Good luck friend..

[CG]

Publicado originalmente por M.Stranger:

Congratulations Old Man Hobbs, your keeping good data.

This was back in Jan 2020

Ok, took me a while but I finally found the tests we did on the forums, here's the link to the full discussion: It is a lot of reading, but the I felt worth it, Renting/ buying both parcels and or equipment. But then we questioned wash plant levels, what is the game doing???

https://steamcommunity.com/app/451340/discussions/0/3311769434092575264/

Bottom line is what the WP efficiency really do?
Results:
T1: 96% (Highly efficient but VERY slow)
T2: 7%
T3: 20%
T4: 27%
T5: 33%

It's possible that they're planning something to go Tier 6 and possibly up but this is how the game currently stands if you mine the blocks correctly.

Whilst the % difference might not seem big, the returns you're getting are massive (Tier 5 over 50% more gold than Tier 3).

Remember also, that these tests are WITHOUT workers, so they'll also add to the bottom line and will add a greater % to Tier 5 than they will to Tier 3, pushing the 33% much higher (though I don't know to how much)."

Hope this helps.

There is more:

May 12, 2020 @ 8:56am
In topic What do workers do?
I basically discovered this information once I had workers assigned to the wash plant and they were at !00%. It was about half way thru Pine Valley.

I started looking more at the Workers Tab in the Tent, looking at each worker to see if I wanted to change their assignment. (There was a version change that allowed you to retrain them)

It was when the game was changed from workers who actual earned some gold as you mined, ( I would have to go back to the patch notes to see the version where this changed).

Then I realized that I had mined two parcels, that I had wash plants that were not as efficient as they could have been. I left more that 50% of the gold I could have gotten.
Since I had made saves on each parcel, as I progressed, I loaded a save at Old Arnold, upgraded equipment to Tier 5, most workers at 100%, and getting more gold than I ever had before cause my Wash Plant is now at 95% plus efficiency.

So it is what I learned while playing the game.

About Workers: Per the tablet in the tent, with workers at 100%

Conveyor Belt Hopper adds 7%
Conveyor Belt adds 7%
Glacier Creek adds 20%
Reinforced Trommel adds 10%
T-DJ adds 2%
T-DJ adds 2%
9 Workers on Wash Plant adds 4.5%

Hog Pan Pump Workers add 25% to the Hog Pan gold recovery ( per each Hog Pan Pump).

This can be verified per the worker tab, on each worker at 100% that is assigned to their respective equipment.

So take another look at the data you have collected, how much gold did you lose because of the level of Wash plant you chose?

Good luck friend..

thank you so much for this data i am looking for!

ive questioned my digging skills in another thread where i get around 26% with a t3 setup + derocker because ive heared that t3 should at least make 40% (let alone with a derocker upgrade).
but without workers thats as good as it gets!