Game breaking glitches (gold duplication)

[lancekro]

Hello Code Horizon,

I think I "broke the game" and I will probably "break the leaderboard" in a few minutes.

I found 2 glitches. One that makes the gold concentration of my paydirt higher. And the other duplicates paydirt.

I've spent a few hours using those to glitches combined to make some "wonderfull paydirt".
And now that i have this "wonderfull paydirt" it only takes me 20 to 30 seconds to duplicate 1 full bucket of it.

I will now put a few buckets of this "wonderfull paydirt" through the wave table and, if everything worked as i hope it did, I should skyrocket from last to first of the leaderboard.

If it works I'll be back in a few minutes to explain how to reproduce those glitches.

I understand that you will probably want to erase me from the leaderboard before posting the results at the end of the season and I'm fine with that, but please don't ban me from future leaderboards.

Lanncekro.

[Metallos]

Is there any leaderboard season running?
As far as I know the last one has ended around 3 weeks ago and no new was announced.

[lancekro]

Originally posted by Metallos:

Is there any leaderboard season running?
As far as I know the last one has ended around 3 weeks ago and no new was announced.

No there is not. i thought there was but no.
At least i don't risk a ban now.


So, the result of my experiment is that with 3 buckets of paydirt I got 15 986 750 oz of gold.

Now I will explain how to reproduce the 2 glitches.

First glitch, to make high concentration of gold into one single bucket of paydirt.
Take some already rafined paydirt like the buckets from the djigs or the paydirt you get from rinsing your 4 hogpan mats for example, and dump it into the hogpan.

Each bucket of paydirt will fill about 3% of the mats regardless of how much gold is in the dirt. The hogpan mats will catch all of the gold in those 3%.
With 34 buckets dumped into the hogpan you get a set of mats at 100%
You can then rinse this set of mats into a bucket that you can dump back into the hogpan to fill the next set of mats at 3%.
Repeat as needed.




Second glitch (this one is a bit tricky), to duplicate paydirt you need the hogpan and a worker assigned on the hogpan sluicebox.

DO NOT put any mats in the the sockets for the employee.

Fill your mats to 100% then take them off the sluicebox yourself and place them aside.
At this point the sluicebox looks completely empty.

Now take a clean mat and place it in one of the sockets for the employe (and magicaly the mat is full of gold)

Now comes the tricky part.
If you want to copy this same mat over and over again
You need to pick the mat from the socket and place it back into the sluicebox (not the socket)
Then you rinse the mat and place it back into the socket (and it's full again).
You can repeat this as many times as you want.

If you put clean mats in the sluicebox it will deactivate the glitch.



I hope I was clear enough so that Code Horizon can fix this if they want to.

[Namaride]

I turned away my first gold nugget when i started this game.
It would be handy for using it but it was not fun because it was inside my very very first bucket of normal dirt i picked up with shovel right after buying the game.

Glitches and exploit isnt helping you. Its only shorting your time enjoying this game.

[Metallos]

The first "glitch" is more a logical thing. The hogpan (with extender) has an efficiency of nearly 100%. I tried that out last year with running around 20 buckets of raw dirt (from the hogpan area) through the hogpan with washing the mats then and putting the paydirt into wavetable and then (after reloading to have the same dirt) putting the raw dirt directly into the wavetable.
The hogpan takes an addition of the gold (and magnetite) from all buckets you put into.

So if you want all the gold from your claim then run it through the hogpan. Ok, it would take years (RL, not ingame!) to clean a claim... ;-)

[HiSaZuL]

Originally posted by Namasteride:

I turned away my first gold nugget when i started this game.
It would be handy for using it but it was not fun because it was inside my very very first bucket of normal dirt i picked up with shovel right after buying the game.

Glitches and exploit isnt helping you. Its only shorting your time enjoying this game.

I'm glad you know better then anyone else, including person doing so, what they consider fun.

1/10 consider that a pity nugget, also I'm going to ignore whether you want it or not. Now you cannot claim try hard status anymore... how sad it must be to be you.

[Namaride]

Originally posted by HiSaZuL:

Now you cannot claim try hard status anymore... how sad it must be to be you.

I dont understand that line.. what are you trying to say?

[wallywally11]

Originally posted by HiSaZuL:

Originally posted by Namasteride:

I turned away my first gold nugget when i started this game.
It would be handy for using it but it was not fun because it was inside my very very first bucket of normal dirt i picked up with shovel right after buying the game.

Glitches and exploit isnt helping you. Its only shorting your time enjoying this game.

I'm glad you know better then anyone else, including person doing so, what they consider fun.

1/10 consider that a pity nugget, also I'm going to ignore whether you want it or not. Now you cannot claim try hard status anymore... how sad it must be to be you.

He just shared an opinion. He wasn't even really disrespectful in doing it. That's a perfectly valid opinion (and so is the opposite). I'm sorry that you're angry, for apparently absolutely no reason. Maybe it's the language barrier, but nothing offensive happened in his post. It was a simple opinion, and one that plenty of people should think about.

[HiSaZuL]

Opinions and statements are not the same thing. Just like sarcasm does not equate to anger...
But yeah I originally put another sarcastic remark about imminent snowflake riots, should have just left it there.

More importantly, a person, reported a bug. Which was conveniently ignored and opinions on cheating are frankly utterly out of place here. That's just fyi.

[Namaride]

Originally posted by HiSaZuL:

imminent snowflake riots

yea your view on things are not clear.. instead of being rude over and over you also could just say what your problem is.
It started with those ghost-keys at another topic. Now here 2.
Tell me what your problem is or indeed shut the f up and stop bother people this way.

Being at a lonely planet in that random lonely universe fits you better. I would stay with NMS if i was you.

By the way... do you even own this game? Gold Rush.
Or just here to annoy others in comparison for your own shortcoming?

[Metallos]

I can confirm, it works. Also the magnetite gets duped (else it would be very nasty to smelt all the gold without upgrading the smith, i say only "20 oz bars with 15 min time"...). Now the devs have to fix the game before starting a new leaderboard season...

Took a hardmode save where I'm actually at the hogpan area, activated the workers in the tablet and the first one was one of the needed.
A 1st generation bucket has 47.04 oz magnetite and 3.36 oz of gold in my case.
A 2nd generation bucket has 1519.58 oz magnetite and 108.54 oz of gold.
Edit:
A 3rd generation bucket has 49,084.01 oz magnetite and 3506 oz of gold.
But the magnetite separator gets bugged out, at first the mag buckets are filled too slow, so many of that magnetite gets lost (the amount of mag in the bucket is linked with the fill level), you may get nearly 3 buckets of mag (ok, we speak about nearly 1400 kg of magnetite in the concentrate...).


It takes a "long" time because you have to wash over 130 mats for each generation... Also it doesn't matter if you accidentally put the washed mat into the hogpan instead of the holder (damn hitboxes!), simply put the mat in the holder and continue.
I found out filling buckets from the trailer with water doesn't reduce the water in the trailer (river dried out for a while because of summer) but it doesn't matter because you can't use the water except for hogpan and washing mats.

[HiSaZuL]

First part doesn't really sound like a bug to me imo. That's just real world physics, matter doesn't simply vanish into thin air or to the magical dirt fairy of the faraway kingdom. Duping mats is where it gets funky. Yeah a bucket of dirt that at some point has 500 kg of gold makes little sense but it's a game gotta make some compromises between gameplay and beliavability. I mean 100k liter water tank is even more hilarious then a bucket with a ton of gold. But the realistic alternative would be... not actually having one because it would need to be gigantic to feed machines for any length of time.

[lancekro]

Originally posted by HiSaZuL:

First part doesn't really sound like a bug to me imo. That's just real world physics, matter doesn't simply vanish into thin air or to the magical dirt fairy of the faraway kingdom. Duping mats is where it gets funky. Yeah a bucket of dirt that at some point has 500 kg of gold makes little sense but it's a game gotta make some compromises between gameplay and beliavability. I mean 100k liter water tank is even more hilarious then a bucket with a ton of gold. But the realistic alternative would be... not actually having one because it would need to be gigantic to feed machines for any length of time.

I wouldn't consider this a bug/glitch if there was some kind of limitation to it.

The way it is right now you could farm up to tier 3 and then clean up the rest of the old arnold's claim and put all of it into one single bucket.

For that you would just have to put the buckets you get from the ST-sluicebox, the djigs and the gold nugetator back into the hogpan (the one from the hogpan area to leave all the washplant on the same fill level)

That means that you wouldn't need the wave table anymore, you would only need to pan one single bucket and you would get ridiculously heavy nuggets that you would pick up with the tiny tweezer.

As funny as it was to pick up a nugget that weights multiple tons with a tweezer when i did the testing, I don't think it is realistic at all even from a gameplay perspective.

The way i see thing the devs could simply add a rule to the hogpans that would look like that:
If gold concentration is greater than X then mats fill % equals 3 time gold concentration divided by X

That litle rule would mean that there can't be more than X gold inside the 3% of the mats

[Metallos]

Originally posted by lancekro:

The way it is right now you could farm up to tier 3 and then clean up the rest of the old arnold's claim and put all of it into one single bucket.

For that you would just have to put the buckets you get from the ST-sluicebox, the djigs and the gold nugetator back into the hogpan (the one from the hogpan area to leave all the washplant on the same fill level)

That means that you wouldn't need the wave table anymore, you would only need to pan one single bucket and you would get ridiculously heavy nuggets that you would pick up with the tiny tweezer.

As funny as it was to pick up a nugget that weights multiple tons with a tweezer when i did the testing, I don't think it is realistic at all even from a gameplay perspective.

And why should anyone do that? It gives absolutely no andvances, in that time you run the buckets through the hogpan and pan the "compressed" one manually I run all buckets through the magsep and wavetable. And compressing bugs out the magsep (see my post above) so much of magnetite gets lost and magnetite is a nice income after you upgraded the blacksmith.

So nothing has to be changed with the hogpan system (it would make only new problems). Only the bug with the worker and changing mats needs to be fixed.

[lancekro]

Metallos said;]And why should anyone do that? It gives absolutely no andvances




That is not true the provision in rent is only taken after you get the gold into your acount so even if you don't put all the paydirt of claim into a single bucket you can stil make a bucket that has enought gold to buy out the claim.
I know this can be done by saving all your clenups and processing it all at once but it takes more time and you would need to plan a day to do it so that you have enough time to clean up, smelt and sell your gold to buy the claim within the same day.

If you have all the gold in one bucket it only takes a few ingame hours to do all of that.

[Metallos]

I know that trick and even if you do it on the normal way it doesn't take a whole game day. If you begin at midday with "waving" 40 buckets then you have much time left. And you can run the buckets through the magsep before. You save also transporting the buckets to the hogpan, you can put the wavetable (and magsep) where you store the buckets (for example near the digsite, you've water and power already there if you use the T2 which would be the case if you use that trick).

And with the "compressing method" you also have to run the buckets through the magsep first else much of the magnetite is lost because there's too much in a bucket.