Computer question

[keylee15221]

I.ve search the web and can't seem to find the info i'm looking for, I have a msi nightblade 3 gaming pc with a 1060 gtx graphic card, does anyone know if I can upgrade to a 1070, the rest of the specs are
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C03&SUBSYS_32831462&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 14226 MB
Dedicated Memory: 6064 MB
Shared Memory: 8162 MB
Current Mode: 3840 x 2160 (32 bit) (30Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: U28E590
Monitor Id: SAM0C4E
Native Mode: 3840 x 2160(p) (30.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_2e44aad2706ac9ff\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_2e44aad2706ac9ff\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_2e44aad2706ac9ff\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_2e44aad2706ac9ff\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 23.21.0013.8800 (English)
Driver Version: 23.21.13.8800
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.1
Graphics Preemption: Pixel
Compute Preemption: Dispatch
Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2017-10-11 4:00:00 PM, 927976 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5F43-11CF-B255-8E121BC2DA35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x1C03
SubSys ID: 0x32831462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem5.inf:0f066de38c1ebff8:Section136:23.21.13.8800:pci\ven_10de&dev_1c03
Rank Of Driver: 00D12001
Video Accel:

[keylee15221]

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393) (14393.rs1_release_inmarket.170303-1614)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
System Model: B250 Gaming Nightblade 3 (MS-B910)
BIOS: 8.10
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16326MB RAM
Page File: 4910MB used, 14359MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: UnKnown
Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.14393.0000 64bit Unicode

[CodeHorizon_CoffeeBean]

I don't see why not

[z3n]

Your DirectX Log is not important to check this. The Nightblade is a OEM PC with a tiny case. mATX or even mITX form factor, I'm not sure.

First thing you have to check: What PSU is in that case. It doesn't look like you are able to swap that PSU if needed. The wattage of the PSU is not the point. It is more important to know how much Ampere this PSU can deliver on one single 12V rail and if it has the connections for a more powerful GPU.

The other point is that you won't be able to mount bigger cards with huge cooling solutions. You do not have enough space and the other problem would be the heat generation if a card without a radial fan would be mounted in to this case.

Edit: Just visited the MSI website and they are using a MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8G for this rig. Should be possible to upgrade your GPU if the PSU has enough wattage. Better ask MSI if this GPU would fit with your configuration.

[CodeHorizon_CoffeeBean]

Publicado originalmente por SK:

Your DirectX Log is not important to check this. The Nightblade is a OEM PC with a tiny case. mATX or even mITX form factor, I'm not sure.

First thing you have to check: What PSU is in that case. It doesn't look like you are able to swap that PSU if needed. The wattage of the PSU is not the point. It is more important to know how much Ampere this PSU can deliver on one single 12V rail and if it has the connections for a more powerful GPU.

The other point is that you won't be able to mount bigger cards with huge cooling solutions. You do not have enough space and the other problem would be the heat generation if a card without a radial fan would be mounted in to this case.

A nice detailed post.

[keylee15221]

SK thanks for your help, appreciate it.

[SirFerret]

Total power needed for the 1070 base model is 150 watts. If you have anything less than a 450W PSU, you can forget it, and you likely will not even have the proper external power connection for it.

[z3n]

The 1070 has a TDP of 150W. TDP is not the enery consumption of the card. TDP = Thermal Design Power. This value just means that the cooling solution of the card must be able to handle the thermal loss of 150W.

[Djigivara]

Change your PC Tower & if need it change the power supply...

[SirFerret]

Publicado originalmente por SK:

The 1070 has a TDP of 150W. TDP is not the enery consumption of the card. TDP = Thermal Design Power. This value just means that the cooling solution of the card must be able to handle the thermal loss of 150W.

Not sure if this link will work or not, but I'll try it:
https://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1070/specifications
This shows 150w MAXIMUM GRAPHICS CARD POWER, not your thermal dissipation. Kindly stop trying to one-up everyone on tech stuff. I did my F'n homework before posting. K, thanks.

[z3n]

Well, it's still the TDP. You are right, that a GTX1070 Founders Edition needs 150W. But a GTX1070 is even able to reach over 200W in power consumption. Usually when you use a custom GPU from MSI, ASUS; EVGA, whatever these cards have a much higher clockspeed directly out of the box. My 1080 Ti has a TDP of 250W and a power conumoption that goes way above 300W.