Hog pan area gold amount?

[Japimon]

Is it really meant to be that from 100% mats you do not get ever over 2oz of gold? I use the mag sep and wave table.
Does it lower the amount of gold in buckets if they sit over night. I tend to play so that I dig and wash for 5-8 buckets and then run them all trough mag sep and table.
Am I doing something wrong?

[Gough]

no you just get low amount of gold from there.

even at tier 2 (mobile wash plant) i am getting dirt from the "rich" area of gold and i only get 2 - 3 oz per bucket. i do cleanups of 20 buckets at a time and get 55 - 65 oz

its just a big grind of a game. i found having the lucky find (cant remember what its called) where you find nuggets to help boost you is a vital thing but eventually it seems to stop.

What i did was use hog pan and then replace that with the one that uses the water pump and get the extension. then spend 2 - 3 days there (in game) and you should have enough money for a mobile washplant with the luck nugget finds, i took a loan out to get the big digger but you can just use the small one if you want to save up without using the loan

[Japimon]

Thanks for the answer :)

[dogwalker1]

While it's common to get 2 oz or less in a 100% matt cleanout, it is also pretty common to get over 2 oz. I'm nearly done cleaning the area out in my current playthrough (hard mode), and can recall a few cases where I even got between 5 and 6 oz.

I'm not 100% sure of this but I suspect we see the same issue with hogpan dirt as with the main claim, in that it's better to dig from the top down than to dig from the base of a pile of earth, the reason being that when earth 'falls' from the top to the bottom of the pile it is actually deleted and recreated (not moved) by the game, with little or no gold in the created earth. So (if you don't already do this) try to dig from the top down rather than undermining the dirt to see if that makes a difference.

[blizzards]

Start the game with 450 and take a load of 2000 and buy full hog pan + water pump. After a cople of manual gold discover you are able to buy wash table and give back loan. Continue to collect paydirt and you can buy portable washplant+excavator with a little effort.

[AntiMedal]

I'm playing on normal difficulty and have the nuggets on but I never got the lucky nugget. I spent a few days using the hog pan to only get 27 ounces of gold all together. So after paying off my loan I got the mobile washplant and extra cables for the generators and only have 13k left. Idk what to do now I can take out a loan and get the small digger but then I'll be completely broke and in debt again.

[Gough]

just dont over stretch yourself with loans. i found that the hard way. I was saving up for tier 3 on the first claim but i dont know if its worth it or to just save up and get the next claim

[Poprocks]

I've had several starts in the past few days and I haven't gotten the lucky nugget a single time. I've processed quite a number of buckets in the hog pan area too. Other posts I've seen mention of people getting it when they've panned a full oz of gold. As I've mentioned, I've had many starts and panned over an oz each time with no lucky nugget. I wonder if they disabled it in a recent patch? Not really a deal breaker, but hey, I'm in it for lulz anyway.

My fastest start on normal has been to buy the small water pump, large hose, and hog pan core w/ pump top along with 2 mats. I hit the gas station right after and use what's left of the $450 to gas up the pump. I run set that all up. Fire it up and run dirt until the 2 mats are 100%. This has me at about 14-15 oz from the early nugget finds. I head to the BS and sell enough gold ore to get $500 or so. Then I use the $500 to smelt ~5 ounces of gold. That cash lets me finish out the full tier 1 hog pan setup. I buy 5 buckets as well. After finishing the setup, I shovel until the 5 buckets are loaded. Pan it all out. This puts me about $40k going into the morning of day 2. That's enough to pretty much complete the portable wash plant setup on the main claim.

That brings me to the first majorly annoying bug I have experienced...small water pump location. It seems that each small water pump I have used gets tied to the location where I first start it. I experienced this in my first start after playing through the tutorial for awhile and feeling I was ready to have an actual game. Figured there's no reason to buy a small pump to get my mobile wash plant up and running. I went and grabbed the the first small pump I had purchased for the hog pan and moved it out to the hill where the tutorial had shown. Incidentally, during the tutorial I didn't bother to reuse the old pump since the tutorial is terribly designed in that it doesn't allow progress unless you follow the current step to the letter. No skipping steps if you already have an item. Anyway, when I moved the small pump to the hill and hooked it all up, it wouldn't start. Hmmm. went back over to the hog pan and I hear a motor running... WTF? Now I'm thinking...wait a min...why was there smoke coming up from the small pump when I tried to start it on the hill? So I grab it and bring it back to where I hear it running by the hog pan. Hit the off switch and presto, she powers down. Pull the cord, she powers up like a champ. Well long story short, seems small water pumps are locked to where ever you first start them up. Another few starts later and I am back to the point where I'm setting up the mobile wash plant up on the claim hill and trying to discover the best spot for the small pump. Well the bug strikes and crap, pump seems tied to the location I first start it. So not just a one time glitch, seems the pump implementation is bugged. Few google searches and can't find any mention of it. Can't seem to find anyplace, other than the Steam forums, where the game is really discussed outside of YouTube videos. Have watched quite a few of those and didn't see this bug once. It's not game destroying...but it sure is inconvenient to have to buy a new pump for every implementation. Also, It'd be nice to have some of the basic pressure and elec system stats like max distance for each pump/gen/cable/hose. Fuel capacity. Avg run time/gallon. Simple stuff.

[Solstice]

Wtf, ~ 2 Oz per complete wash out?

im not even getting 1 Oz.

Per pan there are in average 6 nuggets with about average 0,01 Oz
With one bucket having 4-5 pans this is round about 0,30 Oz i make per Wash out with 4 mats.

what the ♥♥♥ i am doing wrong.

[Gough]

the more you head away the more you find. its a pain.... plus if you use the wave table you should find more

[Solstice]

So, the dirt to gold density increases when i dig in the middle of the hog pit?

That actually is a useful advice, i thought it doesnt make any difference where i dig.

It at leasts looks all the same and nowhere were hints given that the amount of gold gained may vary considerably depending where you dig.

Yeah i guess i will go for wash table soon... i made now about 20 washouts and should have enough gold soon to afford it. ~7 Oz in my account RN

And my hands are sore from digging...can you buy hand lotion ingame ? :-P

[Gough]

yeh i imagine its the same as the claim which has more rich areas dotted about. cant get a drill into the hog pan area to confirm though

[Solstice]

I decided to screw it and start a new game. i have done everything wrong obviously leading to me go bankrupt.

Starting anew i can confirm that the arnolds hog claim has 3 Oz yield per wash in the middle but almost nothing at its side.

I actually am already at T2 with a small excavator after 3 ingame days.

i thought having an excavator would speed up things a bit but it seems you process much more dirt for less gold. I think you need 50 turns with excavator to get one bucket full of the MWP, and one turn is considerably slower then making shovel turns on hog site where you need ~ 100 Shovels for one full bucket.

That bucket yield 3 Oz on Hog site and ~6=Oz at T2 Plant.
I guess by calculating time in to fill a bucket remains the same but output doubles the net gain is doubled... nevertheless... you need so much gold for buying some next things... i cant possibly imagine to do 100 buckets full with excavator just to buy the claim or afford other things.
Im looking for workers now, maybe the give a good portion of workspeed progress.

I heard there are better spots on the big parcel, so maybe i am again on a bad spot? I didn't start digging at the edge of the parcel this time. Shall i save for a drill immediately to find that sweet spots or go for big excavator?

I made a test game where i cheated money to test the machines a bit, while i dont get how to make efficient use of bulldozer or sumthing the other thingy. ony things that seem to make sense are big excavator and drill. I did not manage to set up my (temporarilly cheated) conveyor belt.
Maybe this makes some machines more effective or at least useful like the bulldozer?

[Gough]

ive never got past Tier 2 i always get bored while im building the plant up. last time i played i found the far end of the claim (bottom right hand corner) has a high amount of gold in it. if you want to see what the gold is like on the claim just go into a new game on easy and turn on $1 mode and buy a drill machine. that will show you there is not alot of good spots on the first claim but there is 3 areas i think it is that has good gold.