A Question Of Mods

[DeathBS]

Moderators Please don't delete/lock this tread.

tl;dr:
Most great sim games allow modding, and it would in my humble opinion, bring a breath of fresh air back to this game. And for those of you that would worry it would mess with the leader board rankings, Code Horizon could easily add a check that would lock out modded seasons from the leader boards...
So please, give your response and reasoning to this question:
"Should Code Horizon Allow Modding Of Gold Rush: The Game?"

Now for my thoughts:

If Code Horizon where to allow modding, It would be a Major Breath Of Fresh Air for their game. I know quite a few modders and had asked them to look at the game for modding possiblities. They said, and I quote:

"Oh wow, This game would be so fun to mod, And EASY! God I wish they'd let us mod this..."

I know of one modding group that went as far to try to make a multiplayer mod, just to test if it could be done. And It reportedly WORKED!!! But sadly they can't release the mod because Code Horizon doesn't allow modding of the game, so that mod may never see the light of day.

I mean honestly, look at most of the great games, whats the one thing they all have in common?

Just to name a few:
Farming sim 13, 15, 17, 19: Mods Allowed
Mine craft: Mods Allowed
Ark Survival Evolved: Mods Allowed
Scrap Mechanic: Mods Allowed
Garry's Mod: Come On, It's Right There In The Name!
Any Elder Scrolls game: Mods Allowed
Any Fallout game: Mods Allowed
Space Engineers: Mods Allowed
Medieval Engineers: Mods Allowed
American Truck Sim: Mods Allowed
Euro Truck Sim: Mods Allowed
Factorio: Mods Allowed
BeamNG.Drive: Mods Allowed
KERBAL SPACE PROGRAM: Mods Allowed
SPORE: Mods Allowed (and that was an EA game)
The Sims: Mods Allowed (EA game)
Sim City!: Mods Allowed (EA game)
Spin Tires: Mods Allowed

I've noticed that most games that are being released allow mods, the main exception being Online Only competitive games, which stands to reason.

So why is Gold Rush, a none competitive, single player, simulation game. Not Allowed to be Modded?

So I ask that everyone that reads this far please respond to this tread with your answer and your reason to the question:

Should Code Horizon Allow Modding Of Gold Rush: The Game?

[marineanukotilah]

yes we need modding

[Zuleica]

+1,000

[SeniLiX]

Beating a dead horse here, but yes.

Modding is great. Too bad the devs doesn't want it.

[Axle Redwood]

gotta agree here

[TK421]

I played the game for 52 hours and haven't touched it since. If modding were added, I would try it again.

[DeathBS]

Originally posted by SeniLiX:

Beating a dead horse here, but yes.

Modding is great. Too bad the devs doesn't want it.

And I'll keep beating this dead horse till I've made glue, then I'll beat the glue.
XD

[DeathBS]

Originally posted by iRacer™:

I played the game for 52 hours and haven't touched it since. If modding were added, I would try it again.

I've gone in and played with every major update, and I've always went "Eh, not really an improvemet..." or "That's it?"

[DeathBS]

I mean honestly, Code Horizon could just go "Fine, mods are now allowed, knock yourselves out..." without doing anything other than changing their EULA, and the modding community would have a Field Day With This Game!

I mean honestly, they built this game in unity. One Of The MOST MODDABLE GAME ENGINES ON EARTH!!! They had to know this would be requested!

[Zuleica]

Originally posted by DeathBySuburban:

Originally posted by iRacer™:

I played the game for 52 hours and haven't touched it since. If modding were added, I would try it again.

I've gone in and played with every major update, and I've always went "Eh, not really an improvemet..." or "That's it?"

Same here.

[Zuleica]

Originally posted by DeathBySuburban:

I mean honestly, Code Horizon could just go "Fine, mods are now allowed, knock yourselves out..." without doing anything other than changing their EULA, and the modding community would have a Field Day With This Game!

I mean honestly, they built this game in unity. One Of The MOST MODDABLE GAME ENGINES ON EARTH!!! They had to know this would be requested!

I really doubt they care what we think. Too bad but that's what it seems like.

[krac]

Why do we need Code Horizon's support if the game is already moddable?

Twenty years ago before steam workshop or even steam itself we modded the hell out of games and nobody cared about official dev support. Mods were put up on modding sites like nexus and had to be manually installed. It would be nice to have steam workshop, but even nexus has a mod manager that makes things easy. If a multiplayer mod has already been created why wouldnt they just put it up on nexus? Why dont we have other mods available? There are tons of other games that dont officially support modding but they have mods available.

I think there just isnt enough interest in this game from the modding community.

[DeathBS]

Originally posted by krac:

Why do we need Code Horizon's support if the game is already moddable?

Twenty years ago before steam workshop or even steam itself we modded the hell out of games and nobody cared about official dev support. Mods were put up on modding sites like nexus and had to be manually installed. It would be nice to have steam workshop, but even nexus has a mod manager that makes things easy. If a multiplayer mod has already been created why wouldnt they just put it up on nexus? Why dont we have other mods available? There are tons of other games that dont officially support modding but they have mods available.

I think there just isnt enough interest in this game from the modding community.

The actual problem is Code Horizons EULA (end user license agreement), in which Part 3. Restrictions, Section B. it states:

"except as expressly permitted by this EULA and save and to the extent in the circumstances expressly permitted by applicable law, to rent, lease, sub-licence, loan, exploit for profit or gain, copy, modify, adapt, merge, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or create derivative works based on the whole or any part of the Software Product or use, reproduce, distribute, translate, broadcast, publicly perform, store in a retrieval system or otherwise deal in the Software Product or any part thereof in any way.

That little part on the third line where it specifically says "MODIFY" is the exact problem. Because modding is exactly that, "Modifying, or adding to, the software to create or change said software to achieve a desired outcome." modding is off the table... Since that is there, No One Will Touch The Game For Fear Of A Lawsuit...

[DeathBS]

Here's a link to the EULA for Gold Rush: The Game, just in case you want to have a read:

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/451340_eula_0?eulaLang=english

[krac]

Originally posted by DeathBySuburban:

The actual problem is Code Horizons EULA (end user license agreement), in which Part 3. Restrictions, Section B. it states:

"except as expressly permitted by this EULA and save and to the extent in the circumstances expressly permitted by applicable law, to rent, lease, sub-licence, loan, exploit for profit or gain, copy, modify, adapt, merge, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or create derivative works based on the whole or any part of the Software Product or use, reproduce, distribute, translate, broadcast, publicly perform, store in a retrieval system or otherwise deal in the Software Product or any part thereof in any way.

That little part on the third line where it specifically says "MODIFY" is the exact problem. Because modding is exactly that, "Modifying, or adding to, the software to create or change said software to achieve a desired outcome." modding is off the table... Since that is there, No One Will Touch The Game For Fear Of A Lawsuit...

Thanks for the clarification. Sadly, it looks like we will never get mods then.

I havent played this game in months, but I would get back into it if there were mods.

[DeathBS]

Originally posted by krac:

Originally posted by DeathBySuburban:

The actual problem is Code Horizons EULA (end user license agreement), in which Part 3. Restrictions, Section B. it states:

"except as expressly permitted by this EULA and save and to the extent in the circumstances expressly permitted by applicable law, to rent, lease, sub-licence, loan, exploit for profit or gain, copy, modify, adapt, merge, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or create derivative works based on the whole or any part of the Software Product or use, reproduce, distribute, translate, broadcast, publicly perform, store in a retrieval system or otherwise deal in the Software Product or any part thereof in any way.

That little part on the third line where it specifically says "MODIFY" is the exact problem. Because modding is exactly that, "Modifying, or adding to, the software to create or change said software to achieve a desired outcome." modding is off the table... Since that is there, No One Will Touch The Game For Fear Of A Lawsuit...

Thanks for the clarification. Sadly, it looks like we will never get mods then.

I havent played this game in months, but I would get back into it if there were mods.

Agreed however, Code horizon could change the EULA to allow mods. And I personally have to believe if we (their customers) raise a big enough stink over this, they will do so. Hence the reason for this thread/petition...