No generation roads in the cities

[BMW-POWER]

Hi all,

I'm search for a mod or option in the Base config files to disable the automaticly generation roads for cities.
Everytime when I remove some roads because I want to have a empty space it generate another road.
I know there is a option to disable that, but I don't know where.

[Asgarth1977]

makeInitialStreets = true, -- default true, false experimental

towards the bottom of the base config, that should do the job.

[BMW-POWER]

I try that, but it's not working.
I set it to false, but the roads are coming back.

[Dan]

That won't stop the towns generating new roads near to them I think. I don't think you can disable that... it'd pretty much break how the game works.

You need to block their expansion - try the curbs mod, and whack down curbs around areas you want to reserve:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866909432

Then delete the curbs again just before you're ready to build something.

[BMW-POWER]

Ahhhh really??! :( that's so bad to add a option to disable it and see that is not working....
So the experimental is a thing that's not working here.
Thank you Grim, i must use that mod for my cities.
I'm a little disappointed now.

[Dan]

Originally posted by BMW-POWER:

Ahhhh really??! :( that's so bad to add a option to disable it and see that is not working....
So the experimental is a thing that's not working here.
Thank you Grim, i must use that mod for my cities.
I'm a little disappointed now.

It works perfectly, it's just nothing to do with city expansion roadbuilding.
All it does is stop the map generator creating the initial road network that links cities/industries together.

[BMW-POWER]

Originally posted by grimdanfango:

Originally posted by BMW-POWER:

Ahhhh really??! :( that's so bad to add a option to disable it and see that is not working....
So the experimental is a thing that's not working here.
Thank you Grim, i must use that mod for my cities.
I'm a little disappointed now.

It works perfectly, it's just nothing to do with city expansion roadbuilding.
All it does is stop the map generator creating the initial road network that links cities/industries together.

Yes, but my question was for the roads IN the city that spawns.

[Dgidge]

If you really want a personalised town, you can delete every buildings and put your owns with a plop mod.

[BMW-POWER]

But then the function of transport is gone, because plop buildings has no people to walk trough stations.
I think the best solution is from Grim with the assets :)

[canophone]

Hmm.. what happens if you put the angle of roads to 0...

[Dirkels]

You get a grid like city. The value gives how much the main roads (medium or higher) may vary from 90 degrees.

[Dan]

Originally posted by BMW-POWER:

Originally posted by grimdanfango:

It works perfectly, it's just nothing to do with city expansion roadbuilding.
All it does is stop the map generator creating the initial road network that links cities/industries together.

Yes, but my question was for the roads IN the city that spawns.

I was just responding to your disappointment thinking that the config option was broken, when it just didn't do what you expected.

You're in a bit of a tough spot to find a solution - you want the game mechanics to stay functioning correctly, but the game mechanics rely significantly on towns being able to build roads in order to expand. If there was some way to just disable their ability to build, you'd end up in a position where goods/passenger demands never increase, so you'd be stuck with tiny starter towns throughout the entire game.

There's really no way a town could guess not to build specifically where you might want to, but otherwise function as normal, so the only practical solution really is to reserve space using mods like with the curbs.
Or mod bulldoze costs to zero perhaps... so you don't bankrupt yourself clearing space.

[canophone]

Originally posted by Dirkels:

You get a grid like city. The value gives how much the main roads (medium or higher) may vary from 90 degrees.

With -90, it seems the automatic road building may be somewhat slower.

[NightOwlBC]

Originally posted by BMW-POWER:

You're in a bit of a tough spot to find a solution - you want the game mechanics to stay functioning correctly, but the game mechanics rely significantly on towns being able to build roads in order to expand. If there was some way to just disable their ability to build, you'd end up in a position where goods/passenger demands never increase, so you'd be stuck with tiny starter towns throughout the entire game.

There's really no way a town could guess not to build specifically where you might want to, but otherwise function as normal, so the only practical solution really is to reserve space using mods like with the curbs.
Or mod bulldoze costs to zero perhaps... so you don't bankrupt yourself clearing space.

If an option existed to disable the autogeneration of roads within a city then I think the expected behaviour would be that the game would add new buildings along any manually laid roads that are within some set distance from an existing building. Thus all game mechanics could be preserved.

[Dan]

Originally posted by ipottinger:

If an option existed to disable the autogeneration of roads within a city then I think the expected behaviour would be that the game would add new buildings along any manually laid roads that are within some set distance from an existing building. Thus all game mechanics could be preserved.

Only if you planned to manually construct road networks for all towns on a map (often 20+), consistently throughout an entire game... it could work, sure, but it's a pretty niche case.