Transport Fever

Transport Fever

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Hiigara Dec 10, 2017 @ 3:35am
Free platform
This game would become so much enjoyable when trasins would choose a free platform. And dont start with this reality ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Just an option to choose a free platform.
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RyanFireball Dec 10, 2017 @ 4:36am 
That is suprising. I have just lost 30M before I discovered a route had "choosen" its ovn platform.
The ability to choose the exact route a train follows is in my opinion a very important feature.
canophone Dec 10, 2017 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by tomnilsson47:
That is suprising. I have just lost 30M before I discovered a route had "choosen" its ovn platform.
The ability to choose the exact route a train follows is in my opinion a very important feature.

It doesn't choose its own platform though... The line system does update the path trains follow though under certain scenarios. And you can bind lines to specific paths.
killakanz Dec 10, 2017 @ 6:01am 
If you don't set platforms, the line will pick the shortest route. This can, occasionally, pick another platform if it's closer.

But as has been pointed out before, this isn't OpenTTD. If you're lazy with setting up your routes, that isn't the game's fault. Think and plan ahead.

Personally, I hate the idea of trains picking platforms themselves. It's something that REALLY annoys me with OpenTTD. They go where they are told. That's just how I do things.
Dirkels Dec 10, 2017 @ 7:53am 
What would be nice is if you could bind more than one platform to a stop so that on high capacity lines the next train can already pull into the station before the previous has left.

And choosing a free platform is realistic, it happens regularly on busy stations that when there are delays train, that are blocked on the platform they were assigned to, are guided to an alternate platform.
canophone Dec 10, 2017 @ 8:52am 
And choosing a free platform is realistic, it happens regularly on busy stations that when there are delays train, that are blocked on the platform they were assigned to, are guided to an alternate platform.

You can do something similar in game already... It's not "choosing a free platform" - it's reassigning a "terminal", and it works (the same that is done in the real world).. I've done it many times. With the latest patch, trains update which track they will use when the path updates.

Originally posted by Dirkels:
What would be nice is if you could bind more than one platform to a stop so that on high capacity lines the next train can already pull into the station before the previous has left.

It would be better to not base track changes on station platform availability... But rather adding block priority rules for when a line path should be updated to use a separate track. This would have the benefit of working in stations when 'auto' is set, but also outside stations.

Last edited by canophone; Dec 10, 2017 @ 9:20am
RyanFireball Dec 10, 2017 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Dirkels:
What would be nice is if you could bind more than one platform to a stop so that on high capacity lines the next train can already pull into the station before the previous has left.

I guess you could make two identical lines running to different station platforms on the same route or one line running A-B and the other B-A.
Stealthy Dec 11, 2017 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Dirkels:
What would be nice is if you could bind more than one platform to a stop so that on high capacity lines the next train can already pull into the station before the previous has left.

And choosing a free platform is realistic, it happens regularly on busy stations that when there are delays train, that are blocked on the platform they were assigned to, are guided to an alternate platform.

Except that this game doesn't simulate any form of delays and hence the argument you made isn't exactly valid. If you got 2 trains doing same thing at the same place in this game, you have probably too many trains or incorrect setup. And little wait hurts nothing either...
genemead Dec 11, 2017 @ 10:58am 
You don't need the crutch of a "free platform", if you set up your platforms and trains right.
Hiigara Dec 12, 2017 @ 6:17am 
Originally posted by killakanz:
If you don't set platforms, the line will pick the shortest route. This can, occasionally, pick another platform if it's closer.

But as has been pointed out before, this isn't OpenTTD. If you're lazy with setting up your routes, that isn't the game's fault. Think and plan ahead.

Personally, I hate the idea of trains picking platforms themselves. It's something that REALLY annoys me with OpenTTD. They go where they are told. That's just how I do things.
Were did you learn to read son? Im writing OPTION(!!!!!) I do NOT say that they have to change the system...i want an OPTION that i can turn ON or OFF
throknor Dec 12, 2017 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Bee1:
Originally posted by killakanz:
If you don't set platforms, the line will pick the shortest route. This can, occasionally, pick another platform if it's closer.

But as has been pointed out before, this isn't OpenTTD. If you're lazy with setting up your routes, that isn't the game's fault. Think and plan ahead.

Personally, I hate the idea of trains picking platforms themselves. It's something that REALLY annoys me with OpenTTD. They go where they are told. That's just how I do things.
Were did you learn to read son? Im writing OPTION(!!!!!) I do NOT say that they have to change the system...i want an OPTION that i can turn ON or OFF
The time they'd spend coding what you want would take away time they could spend optimizing or adding something new and actually useful or interesting.
RyanFireball Dec 12, 2017 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Bee1:
Originally posted by killakanz:
If you don't set platforms, the line will pick the shortest route. This can, occasionally, pick another platform if it's closer.

But as has been pointed out before, this isn't OpenTTD. If you're lazy with setting up your routes, that isn't the game's fault. Think and plan ahead.

Personally, I hate the idea of trains picking platforms themselves. It's something that REALLY annoys me with OpenTTD. They go where they are told. That's just how I do things.
Were did you learn to read son? Im writing OPTION(!!!!!) I do NOT say that they have to change the system...i want an OPTION that i can turn ON or OFF

I would have ignored this if you have not chosen to answer an honest response to help you understand why the developers have made a very important choice regarding the control of the trains as we set up their lines and expect them to follow our instructions instead of overriding our commands and make their own decisions in such an impolite manner.

You should have been able to understand that most of those who have responded to this thread have tried to help you and anyone following this thread, understand why it is a bad idea to make your trains override your instructions and commands. I realise you can find players on YouTube who find being surprised by how their trains behaves according to their specific instructions instead of making a more intelligent decision than they do themselves, quite enjoyable.

Making this an option Transport Fever would make it necessary to program two different versions of the code that guide the trains behaviour. I am quite convinced that the majority of players would quickly turn of this option when they discover their trains take it unto themselves to choose to use the platform that the players most critical train needs to use a few seconds later, and doing this while the player are concentrating on how to fix a problem on the other end of the map caused by the same option being used by a train of little importance.

Your requested option would have required the developers to program a total alternative "system" that governs the trains behaviour. I hope this would be placed on the bottom of their bucket list regarding Transport Fever.

In the meantime I sugest this site for learning something about programming:
https://www.codecademy.com/


I ask for forgiveness for any unintended offence.
Kind regards /Tom

Last edited by RyanFireball; Dec 12, 2017 @ 1:10pm
Mr Jay Dec 12, 2017 @ 1:18pm 
I do wish there was an option for the trains to pick an empty platform. In one of my games I have a terminal solely dedicated to coal. The trains and terminals do nothing else apart from shift coal. The trains share the mainline so the issue is if one coal train is busy in the terminal loading the other cant get in a blocks the mainline. An option to select any free platform would mean I could have a four platform terminal with four trains sitting being loaded over time instead of blocking the line for other trains.

I do love the dedicated platform however, just wish we had modular stations for provincial and long intercity lines.
ChunkHunter Dec 12, 2017 @ 1:52pm 
If you've got trains waiting a long time for a platform then you've got too many trains. Period.
maculator Dec 12, 2017 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by geneomead:
You don't need the crutch of a "free platform", if you set up your platforms and trains right.
Thats not the point.

The game rewards you for not having traffic at all. Best solution is a track and a platform for each line. "free" trains would just add to the complexity and the fun of the game. Also the challenge is way more interresting with free trains and signals.

transport Fever is one of my favorite games of all time, but when I want to have a rail network that keeps me entertained I start up simutrans.
Block-Signals, Pre-Signals, Two-Block-Signals, Path-Signals, Entry-Signals, Exit-Signals.... you can really push your stations to the limit (and your track to) and you have to because it comes with real maintenance costs.
canophone Dec 12, 2017 @ 6:02pm 
Originally posted by maculator:
you can really push your stations to the limit (and your track to) and you have to because it comes with real maintenance costs.

Tracks now can have maintenance costs in TpF but by default don't!
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